The Pax 3 is a portable dry herb and concentrate vaporizer from PaxVapor. This is the third iteration of the very popular Pax line and it continues to improve while staying true to what made the Pax so popular in the first place; elegant look and feel, ease of use, portability, and discreetness, along with top-tier reliability and warranty.
Pax 3 Review [4K Video] ~13:58
This Pax 3 review will talk about the upgrades over the Pax 2. Including a new Concentrate insert, an upgraded battery with bumped capacity from 3000 mAh to 3500 mAh, and quicker heat up times from around 45 seconds down to around 15 seconds.
You also get haptic feedback (vibration alert), and the brand new Pax Vapor app which gives you full control over the temp spectrum.
For more information on the older model (Pax 2) which is now $149 after another price drop, check out my Pax 2 review
Update: The Pax 3 now comes in two different kits. You can choose the “Device Only” option ($199) which includes everything you need to vape dry herbs (no half-pack lid) OR you can pick up the “Complete Kit” which is now $249 and comes with everything you need to vape both dry herbs and concentrates plus the half-pack lid.
The complete kit comes with the half-pack lid, the concentrate insert, and a small carrying case. Pax also added a new matte finish and will be phasing out the glossy finish. Teal is the new color along with Rose Gold, Black, and Silver.
I recommend picking it up directly from PaxVapor or Vapor (Formerly VapeWorld). Check out my full pax 3 review below.
Pax 3 Size, Portability and Build Quality
The Pax 3 doesn’t produce top of the line flavor or offer replaceable batteries but the overall package including size, portability, battery life, build quality and ease of use made the Pax 2 my most frequently used vape. Especially for outdoor activities such as hiking, biking, skiing, and snowboarding. In this Pax 3 review you’ll see that the Pax 3 has the same physical dimensions of the Pax 2 with a slight weight increase of three grams.
Size – I am actually happy they kept the same size because I really loved the size, weight distribution, and overall feel of the Pax 2. It also means aftermarket accessories for the Pax2 will work with the Pax3. When you hold the Pax 3 you will notice that it has a nice solid feel with even weight distribution and no rattles or loose parts.
Portability – Out of the box the Pax 3 is visually very stealthy, however, it can be smelly after use (especially if you don’t empty the oven after your sessions), so if you personally need to be extra discreet about smell, I recommend you pick up the ‘Pax 2 End Caps’ for less than $3 from Delta 3d Studios to conceal excess smell.
The first thing you will notice after picking up the new Pax vaporizer is the matte finish. It’s more resistant to scratches, feels good in the hands, and in my opinion, nicer looking than the transverse brushed finish on the Pax 2.
Build Quality – My Pax 3 has been on a handful of biking and skiing trips already but has yet to encounter any hard falls so my finish is still in perfect shape. I will be going on some more biking adventures this summer and we will see how the finish holds up after another season. I do fully expect it to pass with flying colors, but I will continually update my review as I continue to use this vaporizer.
Haptic Feedback – One of the minor upgrades to the Pax 3 is the addition of haptic feedback or vibration alert. This is a feature that has become more and more common with the newer vapes. I am actually really impressed with the vibration on the Pax 3, the vibration is minimal but noticeable, some vapes can make audible/obnoxious noises while they vibrate but the Pax vibrate is a good combination of noticeable yet still discreet.
Overall the Pax vaporizers have always felt very strong and durable in the hands while being backed up by a 10-year warranty and a good reputation for reliability. The Pax 3 is no different.
Accessories, Half-Pack Lid, and Concentrates Insert
This is the biggest addition to the new Pax 3. Instead of getting one chamber lid you now get three choices. First, you get the original chamber lid for a full-size oven, the newest option is the half-pack lid which I’m a HUGE fan of and last but certainly not least, the new concentrate insert.
Half-Pack Lid – One of the biggest complaints I’ve heard from users with the Pax and Pax 2 is the oven size is too big for single session users. Previously, you had to make a custom insert out of a folded stainless steel screen, or purchase 3rd party accessories to really make the Pax/Pax 2 efficient for one person sessions. The Half-Pack lid has greatly improved the single user session and it’s pretty much the only lid that I use now when I am solo. I also noticed the Half-Pack lid reduces to amount of draw resistance and allows for a freer flowing draw. I estimate resistance is reduced by around 15-20% so overall I am really happy with the new lid.
Concentrate Insert – I’m extremely happy that Pax Labs decided to listen to us and add in a concentrate option. The growing trend is hard to ignore and consumers (myself included) like the option to use concentrates with their portable vaporizers.
I’ve found the concentrate lid to work well. I’ve gone through a bunch of bowls at this point and have tried some runnier concentrates as well as more waxy flakey concentrates. So far nothing is leaking and there are no messes to clean up afterward. It’s definitely a session style with concentrates where you can get a dozen or so tasty draws as opposed to a red-hot pen coil, dab rig or a something like the Cloud EVO where you are taking 1-2 lung-busting rips.
The taste and vapor smoothness are really nice. The vapor is not incredibly dense, it’s definitely on the lighter and tastier side. Previously people used to sandwich concentrates between dry herb, or wrap concentrates in cotton and fill the oven, however, the new concentrate lid definitely blows the older methods out of the water in my opinion. Overall I find the Pax 3 to be very effective and efficient without making a huge mess or wasting materials.
Mouthpieces – With the Pax 2, I almost exclusively used the flat mouthpiece because the raised mouthpiece would get hot on my lips and provided an overall worse experience in my opinion. They have now improved the raised mouthpiece and its equally enjoyable to use, although slightly different. At the moment I can’t decide which one I like more, I think I am leaning towards the flat MP for the cleaner look, however, it may just be that I am used to the flat MP from extended Pax 2 use.
Heating, vapor path, and temp options
This is another big area of improvement and I’m finding myself reaching for the Pax 3 more often now because of the quick heat up time. The Pax 2 takes about 45-60 seconds to heat up which has slowly been falling behind a lot of the newer vapes. But now I’m grabbing the Pax 3 because I can start a session in about 15 seconds. The Pax 3 is currently the fastest heating conduction session vape I own.
Now the Pax 3 still won’t heat quite as fast as the GH or Firefly 2 if you’re looking for an on-demand portable that you heat up for each individual draw instead of heating the whole oven for a full session. But it’s much-improved heat up time makes it the fastest heating portable conduction session vaporizer I have tested yet.
Temperature Options – The four Pax 3 heat settings are:
- Temperature 1 – 360F / 182C – 1 Green LEDs (16 second pre-heat time)
- Temperature 2 – 380F / 193C – 2 Yellow LEDs (16 second pre-heat time)
- Temperature 3 – 400F / 204C – 3 Orange LEDs (17 second pre-heat time)
- Temperature 4 – 420F / 215C – 4 Red LEDs (18 second pre-heat time)
The vapor path remains the same as the Pax 2. Like I mentioned above, I’ve found less draw resistance with the Half-Pack lid but everything else seems to be pretty much the same.
Pax 3 Review Vapor App
Pax 3 Vapor APP Guide [4K Video] ~7:37
The Pax Vapor APP allows you to customize your session with individual temp selections and with different heating profiles. The five different heating profiles are standard, boost mode, efficiency mode, stealth mode and flavor mode.
Boost mode keeps the oven hotter for longer with less auto cooling. I personally like this mode if you are looking for a faster session, you are looking for denser clouds, or you are using the Pax with a water pipe adapter. Efficiency mode ramps up the oven temperature throughout your session so this is an enjoyable setting to use. Stealth mode cools quicker and allows for stealthy light quick hits. Flavor Mode is all about preservation and only heating your herbs when you are drawing, use this mode if you value flavor and vapor smoothness over vapor density.
So far I’ve been using stock settings (with all modes turned off), the efficiency mode, and occasionally Flavor mode for my normal-dry herb sessions, but I’ve been using boost mode when I’m using glass at home or using the concentrate insert. Watch my full pax vapor app guide below.
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*It’s important to note that you don’t need a phone or the app to effectively operate the Pax 3. You can change temps via the power button located at the top just like you would with a Pax or Pax 2. The application only adds additional function and customization.
Chamber Info and Bowl Size
The chamber and bowl size has stayed the same on the Pax 3. The only differences are the three lids that come with the unit instead of just the full-pack oven lid. I have found that I can pack roughly .15-.20 grams of dry herb into the oven when I am using the half-pack lid depending on the grind (medium to coarse grind fits .15 and with an extra fine grind it holds .20). With the standard oven lid, the Pax 3 oven will hold .30-.40 grams of dry herb. With the concentrate insert, I have found less is more, and performance drops and cleaning ramps up if you overload it.
Cleaning and Maintenance
So far I’ve noticed the draw resistance kicks up after around 8-10 bowls. The screen will start to clog around the edges and that’s generally when you’ll want to do a quick cleaning session. You will also want to wipe out the bowl and the underside of the mouthpiece as well. Occasionally you will have to do a full cleaning. You will need the supplied pipe cleaners and some isopropyl alcohol. Wipe out the vapor path, clean out the oven, and give the mouthpiece a good wipe down. A quick cleaning takes a minute or two, and the full cleaning will take about five minutes. Overall the Pax 3 cleaning is easy and straightforward but you do want to stay on top of it to keep your vape performing its best.
If you plan to use the concentrate insert you will have to clean the vapor path, and the underside of the lid a bit more frequently than if you were strictly using dry herbs. The concentrate insert does a very good job of keeping all the liquid contained so I have not had to do any extra cleaning inside the oven itself. I could see the included seal needing to be replaced at some point to ensure it doesn’t leak out and they have included an extra one for that purpose. The insert itself is really easy to clean, you just pop the stainless steel canister itself away from the plastic lid, and then drop it into some isopropyl alcohol.
Overall the Pax 2 and now the Pax 3 vaporizers have always been pretty quick and easy to clean. You just need to stay on top of them or the draw resistance will ramp up and performance will decline.
Battery Specs, Battery Life and Charging Options
This is another big area of improvement. The Pax 3 now has roughly 17% more battery capacity with 3500 mAh vs the 3000 mAh in the Pax 2. In my testing with a full battery charge, I have gotten between 5 and 10 bowls depending on each session’s length and between 95 and 110 minutes of heated total run-time. This is generally getting me 140-180 total draws per charge. In my tests, the Pax 3 has taken 95 and 105 minutes to fully charge from completely dead. So if you throw the Pax 3 onto the charger for 1.5 hours, you can expect 1.5 hours of runtime which is really impressive, especially for USB charging.
Honestly, the Pax 3 is probably the best unit for battery life at this point which is extremely impressive for its size, although it would be cool if the battery was user replaceable.
The Pax 3 comes with the magnetic charging dock that charges via USB. It’s not the strongest magnet and you’ll need to rubber band the unit/charging dock together if you plan on charging on the go where it will be bounced around like a backpack. I wish they would have given us the smaller ‘mini-charger’ with the Pax 3 but it’s still available for purchase in the accessories section on their website. I’ve found it attaches much better to the unit and you don’t have to worry about it coming off if you are charging the unit on the go.
Pax 3 vs Pax 2
The Pax 3 comes in at the high end of the price spectrum and can be considered a “premium” vaporizer especially when you factor in the 10-year warranty. The closest vaporizer to the Pax 3 right now would be the Davinci IQ , you can check out my comparison article right here.
If you already have a Pax 2, the main differences between the 2 and the 3 will be the heat up time, battery life, haptic feedback and the Pax Vapor APP. If you don’t care about improved battery, heating, and don’t plan to use concentrates you might be better off just picking up the half-pack lid for your Pax 2 as it’s easily worth the $13 price for me.
Now if you don’t have the Pax 2, even though the Pax 2 is now cheaper at $149 I still definitely recommend going straight for the Pax 3 “Complete Kit” because you get the half pack lid and the concentrate insert. You are really not spending much extra to get the upgraded internals and accessories which are definitely worth that price in my opinion. Especially if you’ll be using concentrates. If you’re not a big concentrate user I would recommend getting the “Device Only” option and picking up the half-pack lid. The half-pack lid makes a huge difference if you’ll be vaping single user sessions.
Pax 3 Review Summary: Should you buy the Pax 3?
Overall I’m really impressed with the upgrades on the Pax 3. It’s definitely not a “new” vaporizer as far as design and aesthetics but internally Pax Labs made some great improvements. The faster heat up time has me reaching the Pax 3 more than any other vaporizer in my collection currently and you can’t beat the portability/concealment factor. The Pax is my go-to whenever I go hiking/biking and especially skiing due to the fast heat-up times even in the freezing cold.
If you are looking for a vaporizer that is easy to use, reliable with a great warranty, consistent, enjoyable to use, and really stealthy the Pax 3 could very well be a perfect fit for you. I can already tell my Pax 3 is going to get more use than any of my other portables this winter on the ski slopes!
I recommend picking up the Pax 3 directly from PaxVapor or via Vapor. Both will ensure you get the manufacturer warranty from a trusted reputable source and VapeWorld will ship to all states in the US.
If you have any questions about the Pax 3, Pax 2 or any other vaporizer, feel free to leave a comment below or hit me up on my contact page and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
Thanks for checking out my Pax 3 review and have a great day!
Introduction:
Hey guys buzz here with vaporizerwizard.com and today I’ll be reviewing the Pax 3 portable vaporizer by PaxLabs. The Pax 3 is a portable conduction vaporizer offering the ability to vape both dry herbs and concentrates. The Pax 3 is currently one of my highest rated portable vaporizers for overall portability next to the Grasshopper. Not only does the Pax 3 last for 100 minutes of average continuous use but it’s extremely easy to pocket and conceal out on the go. This makes the Pax 3 my most used vaporizer for outdoor activities like hiking, biking, skiing or snowboarding.
The Pax 3 ranks highest in categories like average battery life, ease of use, durability, and overall portability.
The new Pax 3 features a bunch of internal changes including a 15-20second heat up time, an adjustable temp spectrum via the Bluetooth and Pax Labs smartphone app, an upgraded battery, and a newly designed concentrate lid. The outside is exactly the same dimensions of the Pax 2, but they changed the outer shell to a Polished finish instead of brushed aluminum and the entire unit weighs about 3 grams more.
At the time of this video the Pax 3 retails for $275. You can click the links in the about section or the top left corner to get the current price and a full review on my website.
Throughout this Pax 3 vaporizer review, I’ll go over the new features, battery life, charging options, the different chamber lids, I’ll go over some comparisons, and finish up with my preferred loading techniques and a quick vape session.
Pax 3 Review:
So here is the Pax 3 vaporizer. The first thing you’ll notice is how light and durable it feels in the hands. You’ll also notice that they changed the outer shell from brushed aluminum to a polished finish. I have noticed more finger prints and it’s not as easy to keep clean but a quick wipe down will leave it looking fresh again. I haven’t had any big drops or bad scratches yet to test the durability of the outer shell but I’ll be taking it skiing all winter to see how it holds up.
The design and functionality is very basic with the Pax 3. You have the chamber and chamber insert, which is located at the bottom. You have the mouthpiece that is located at the top, and the power button is located under the mouthpiece.
Included:
Included with the Pax 3 is the vaporizer itself, some cleaning tools, 3 extra chamber screens, 1 concentrate insert, 2 chamber inserts (half-pack and full-pack), 2 mouthpieces (flat and raised), a micro USB charging cable, keychain + keyring, and lastly the Pax Vapor Smartphone APP.
The Pax 3 comes with pretty much everything you’ll need. Some extras I recommend but not needed would be a good bubbler for home use (this is the d020-d), a water pipe adapter (something like this one or this one), and possibly an external battery pack like this anker. This type of battery pack will fully charge your Pax 3 from dead 2-3 times.
Pax 3 Size and Weight w/ Comparisons
The exact dimensions of the Pax 3 are 3.87 inches tall by 1.21 inches wide by .85 inches deep and it weighs roughly 93 grams. By comparison the Crafty is 135 grams, the Firefly 2 is 140 grams, the Davinci IQ is 145 grams and the Titanium Grasshopper weighs 55 grams.
How to use the Pax 3:
Mouthpieces
You get two different mouthpieces with the Pax 3, one flat and one raised. I personally prefer to use the flat mouthpiece for not only the concealment factor but also the raised mouthpiece seems to produce hotter temps on my lips, most noticeable with aggressive draws.
Both mouthpieces swap out very easily. Just get a fingernail in the groove and lift up for the flat mouthpiece and push to one side or the other to remove the raised mouthpiece.
Oven/Chamber Lids
Next we’ll go over the different chamber lids. The first one and original chamber lid is the full-pack. I prefer to use this one when I’m vaping with multiple people. You can also use it if you wanted to pack one bowl and break it down into multiple sessions. Using the same bowl for multiple sessions lowers the efficiency and flavor so it’s generally not recommended, but it does work well when I am skiing and its tough to repack. The Pax 3 works best when the chamber is fully packed which means it will hold around .3 grams and provide 20-30 draws in a session.
The half-pack lid is perfect for 1-2 people and will provide about 10-15 draws in a roughly 10 minute session. Keep in mind that you can speed up a session or slow it down based on the temps you vape at and what type of herb you are using. The Half-pack lid really improves the efficiency for smaller sessions with the Pax 3. It’s still not as efficient as an on-demand convection vaporizer like the Firefly 2 or Grasshopper, but it’s a big improvement over the standard lid.
Last is the new Concentrate Lid. It’s basically a canister attached to a lid with seals so none of the materials leak out regardless of how you hold your Pax 3. I’ve found the sessions to be very enjoyable and a little amount goes a long way. Personally, I feel like the concentrate insert is nice to have but it’s not going to replace your dab rig or e-nail. It’s more for someone who mainly vapes dry herbs but likes the option to use some concentrates now and again. Overall, the concentrate insert works well without creating a mess to clean up.
All of the lids are easy to remove. For the dry herb full and half-pack, just press down on either side and pull out. For the concentrate insert, just grab the edges and pull it straight out. The concentrate insert does stick out of the bottom a little bit but that’s because the canister takes up the majority of the space in the chamber and it can’t be tilted side to side. It can only go straight in, or come straight out. So it definitely removes some of the concealment factor when using the concentrate insert but also makes it easy to replace.
Chamber Specs – Loading recommendations
I can get about .3 grams of herb with the full-pack lid and around .15 grams with the half-pack lid. Extra fine grinds will produce the best clouds and dense vapor but will increase draw resistance and increase cleaning frequency. My personal preference is to use the half-pack lid with an average to fine grind and pack down the herbs pretty tightly. This gives me a good combination of air flow and vapor density. I only use the full chamber when multiple people are involved or if I plan to use a single oven for multiple sessions. The full-pack is often too big for one person and can lead to wasting of your herbs.
Concentrate Insert:
To add material to the concentrate insert, lift up on either end of the canister and drop the materials into the bottom while avoiding the air paths. I recommend starting out with a small amount and add more later if needed. The oven doesn’t get anywhere near as hot as a dab rig or e-nail so it takes a longer time to extract. Once you have some materials in the canister, place the lid back on the canister and you’re ready to insert the lid into the oven. The canister also removes from the lid for easy for easy cleaning. The bottom does stick out of the unit a little bit to make it easier to remove. I recommend temperature 4 for concentrate use.
Battery and Charging Info:
The Pax 3 uses a rechargeable non-replaceable 3500mAh 18650sized battery which is an upgrade from the 3000mAh in the Pax 2. I’ve been averaging about 100 minutes of use on a full charge and about 100 minutes to charge the unit from dead. Four solid white petals indicate the Pax 3 is fully charged and when all four petals blink red 3 times, it needs to be charged.
I rarely ever run out of battery with the Pax 3. A full battery will last me 5-7 sessions which is usually more than enough for a full day worth of activities. But if you want an option to charge the Pax 3 on the go I recommend picking up an external charger like this one. Something like this one will charge the Pax 3 from dead three times. You can also get smaller ones but make sure they output at 2 or 2.1 amps
By comparison the Davinci IQ averages 50-70 minutes of battery life using the same battery as the Pax 3 but features a replaceable battery system. Downside to the IQ is that it takes roughly 240 minutes to fully charge a dead battery within the unit.
The Crafty averages 30 minutes of use and takes roughly 120 minutes to charge from dead.
How to use the Pax 3 without the APP
The Pax 3 uses one button located under the mouthpiece at the top of the unit. To turn the unit on, press the mouthpiece button one time, same to turn it off. Once you turn the unit on the Pax 3 automatically begins heating to your last set temp. Hold down the power button for 2 seconds to get to the temp options. A quick press will change temps. One petal is temp one which is 360 degrees Fahrenheit. Two petals is 380 degrees, temp 3 is 400 and temp 4 is 420. The last option is a custom pre-set temp that can be changed to any temperature within the 360-420 range via the Pax vapor smartphone app.
Shake the device or hold down the power button for 2 seconds to select a temp. The device does NOT heat while you are in temp select mode and you can’t change the pre-set temp without the app.
Pax 3 App Features
First, you get one custom pre-set temp option. You can change it to any temp within the spectrum. You can also change the color theme to blue, yellow, red or the default green. Adjust brightness from 100% to almost completely off. Lock the device, which is a cool feature as long as your phone doesn’t die. Adjust haptic feedback from completely off, to medium, to high. I personally like the high setting.
Lastly the Pax 3 comes with three different games: Paxrun, Paxsays and Paxspin.
Cleaning and Maintenance
The cleaning and maintenance is pretty easy with the Pax 3. You will want to brush out the chamber after a session and when possible, remove the herbs from the chamber as soon as your session is finished. This will reduce cleaning and the smell. If you vape your ovens in a single session you will have a bit less cleaning than users who break bowls into multiple sessions as the excess oils will build up in the vapor path and top mouthpiece area.
At rtughly 10 sessions you’ll need to remove the screen and drop it in some iso. Dip a little bit of ISO on a q-tip and clean the chamber, chamber insert, top area under the mouthpiece and the mouthpiece itself. You may need to scrub the screen after letting it sit in ISO depending on how many sessions its been. You can also just swap out the screen for a new one and clean them all at once.
Lastly, you’ll want to put a little bit of ISO on a pipe cleaner and run it through the vapor path. Be careful not to use too much and let the unit and all pieces completely dry before using the device again.
So now that we’ve covered pretty much everything about the Pax 3 and how to use it, let’s go ahead and jump into the vape session.
Vape Session: (.15 grams, half-pack, fine grind/tight pack, 400 starting temp)
For this vape session I’m using about .15 grams with a fine grind, tight pack, and the half-pack chamber insert. My starting temp will be 400 degrees Fahrenheit and I’ll jump up to 420 degrees with the bubbler. I usually start a session out at 360, stepping up to 380 and finishing at 400 but I wanted to show what kind of clouds the pax 3 is capable of producing during the demo. The lower temps will produce better flavor and I really only use the 420 temp for concentrates or to finish off a session. I’ve been averaging about 15-20 second heat up times depending on the temp with a full battery.
The Half-Pack chamber insert is perfect for 1-2 people. Draws per session changed based on personal use and length of draws, but I would say I average about 10-15 draws and a session will typically last about 10 minutes depending on temps.
The full-pack chamber insert basically doubles the draws and the session length. I prefer to use the full lid when I’m with a group of friends or if I’m planning to use a single oven for multiple sessions. I average about 20-25 draws and a session will last about 20 minutes on average. Again these will vary depending on your personal preferences.
The Pax 3 features a motion sensor which activates standby mode when the device is not being used. Standby mode will rapidly cool the device and help save herbs. I really like this crEompared to basically every other unit with a set time limit auto shutoff. The Pax 3 will stay on as long as you are using it, and it will go into standby and eventually shut itself off anytime you set it down and forget about it.
The draw resistance is about average for a portable conduction vaporizer and I’ve noticed an improvement in air flow with the half-pack chamber. Finer grinds will increase draw resistance while producing bigger clouds while average grinds will be easier to draw from but the clouds won’t be as dense.
The Pax 3 is very easy to pass around and the weirdest thing for you or your friends might be the draw resistance. I try to explain it as sipping from a cup of hot tea and basically slow down your draw until you feel no resistance.
There are a couple different options for water pipe adapters. Two options I recommend is the delta 3d studios wpa or the new vape male water pipe adapter. Both of these WPA’s will work with the Pax 2 and Pax 3.
Lastly, I’m using the d020-d bubbler.
PROS and CONS
My first pro is the size, durability and portability. The Pax 3 is my go to portable vaporizer for outdoor activities because I know I can conceal it easily and it’s tough enough for rugged adventures.
Next is the battery life. I average about 5-7 sessions on a full charge which is about 100 minutes of continuous use. This is more than enough battery life for a full days’ worth of activities and the Pax 3 will fully charge from dead in 100 minutes.
The Pax 3 is easy to use, operate and maintain plus it comes with a 10 year warranty.
You also get tons of options. The new concentrate lid performs exactly as described while being easy to use and easy to clean. You also get two different dry herb chamber lids and two different mouthpieces.
The last two pros would be the 15-20 second average heat up times and the Pax 3 offers precise temp options between 360 and 420 degrees Fahrenheit with the Pax APP.
Moving on to the cons, the first downside to the Pax 3 would be the draw resistance. It’s not bad compared to other conduction vaporizers but like I mentioned earlier, it’s definitely not as free flowing as models like the Firefly 2 or Grasshopper.
Next con is the fact that you have to use the app to select precise temps or change the custom pre-set temp. It would have been nice to be able to select a specific temperature without having to pull out your phone and open up the app.
Next small complaint would be that the Pax 3 uses a stainless steel chamber, stainless steel vapor path, but uses a food grade silicone mouthpiece.
Lastly, the magnet in the charging dock is pretty weak so you’ll need to wrap a rubber band around the unit and charging dock if you’ll be charging on the move.
SUMMARY
So overall the Pax 3 is a very good vaporizer if you’re looking for ultimate portability, quick pre-heat times, an option for concentrates and above average battery life.
I’ve said it a million times but I always reach for the Pax when I’m heading out to go hiking, biking, skiing, or snowboarding because I know that it will easily fit in my pockets and it’s durable enough to survive whatever I throw at it.
You can pick up the Pax 3 or check out my full Pax 3 article with more pictures by following the links down below in the about section.
If you already have the Pax 2 or thinking about buy the Pax 2 instead of the Pax 3, the biggest upgrades will be the faster pre-heat times, better battery life and access to the app. As far as I know the concentrate insert will be interchangeable with the Pax 2. So if you don’t really care about the increased heat up times and you don’t currently run out of battery life, the Pax 2 might work just fine for you.
As always, if you have any questions about the Pax 3 or any other vaporizer, feel free to leave a comment down below or contact me on my website vaporizerwizard.com.
Thanks for watching and take it easy.
Where were you that one summer’s night impulsivity overtook me and when i returned home i had the last pax3 rose matte std. Kit.
This impulse took me to my main store, yeah cheaper online, but now I’m getting excited because they’re closed, but there’s got to be another place open.
Those are stories for another day.
The pax3 is eh…. As my first vaporizer it’s pretty cool. The pens seem so much easier though.
I won’t lie, i had instant buyer’s remorse.
Da## thing isn’t drawing at all, and geez it’s hot. This stupid mouth piece is flat… Wtf is this sh÷÷.
Actual thoughts as now my mouth was hot from trying too hard.
Slow pulls they say online; you know, like smoking a cigar. Then sip, sip, siparoo. Wow i just spent $200 on this.
Session 2 maybe 3. Lost the screen. I must say Am@zon provides excellent service. They even let you sign back up in one click. So convenient. I saved a dollar. Well… I’ll show them.
They still have 12 of my dollars for their service, so within 2 days all this crap shows up that i bought spending so my shipping savings would be more than the 13 they took. Yeah. All good i got my money’s worth of 12 dollars in shipping and in addition to my other various “this would be cool”, 12 year old mind set somewhere off building a secret fort, now have several various items of the random, yet mysterious nature, and well… It was like i was playing minesweeper. Clicking around same item different name I’ve never heard of all different prices too but same stock photo.
In summary, useless garbage equivalent to a grown man’s chuckie cheese, “here are my tickets sir. I’ll take this and a few of those. Yes the blue one please.”….. Don’t click the free shipping lol.
Unless you like trying items out and then returning them. Because the options that you have that are free to return things are great. My favorite, returning to the locker won’t work too much going back… Then i see it. “Put it all in a box, print this, what you don’t have a box? Well can you get it to a UP$ because they’ll take care of it.
True story. Still feels like i was dreaming. I put it all in a box. Neatly of course. I even felt bad for not erasing all the markings on the box, but this says it’s ok. I mean i felt bad showing him the QR code. Like i was on trial, i explaining things that no one need ever hear. He looked nodded and handed me this little sticker he just printed out. Said tracking number.
I was so confused. He didn’t even look at what i gave him. What just happened so i go back… Yeah i made a scene kinda and he was just like look that’s what it says for me to do.
So i decided to trust him. 3 business days or so later the money was back in my account. Ps I d think twice if i were you before opening an account with regions. Story for a future post.
All i kept was an after market lid with holes and a sandwich pusher with a 3d screen. Which i learned the day i discovered no shops carried anything except the half pack when i kept calling the screen the oven tray every name but screen. Save time go straight to amaxon (-;
Learned something that day too… Vaping is not vaping because my vape is not held as the same esteem as your vape but hold on, it says “vape shop” on the building.
Alas. I remember why I didn’t want to go in some of the stores. There are some very rude condescending tree hugging hippie childrens playing sherman the sherpa explaining to me how vape isn’t vape. “We are a vape shop. We only sell vapes.” I said cool… I just bought my first vaporizer and lost the oven cover that sits in the… Oven ya know chamber… ” oh you mean a screen and no, we don’t sell those things we are a vape shop only”
That is even less funny when i actually bought mine at a shop for 200. Even almost at closing and the wonderful, i can’t recall her name; and now i remember i never left that yelp review lol.
Next use Amzaon ;-), regardless of prime deliver to a locker. Just seems easier than worrying about it on the front porch….
Wait… Scratch that. Do not have it delivered where they can steal you and clone you one day. It’s real they’d have your face and all those weird faces you make using your phone looking down.
Facial recognition, your fingerprints all over the world reprinted with some 3d printer someone picked up at the world’s last radio shack for $5,437 euros… But that’s If you worry about those things. I don’t. Just silly.
Pax3 still slower draw and increased odor with the vented lid, but so much better….
Until now lol. I feel like i should focus on controlling my impulses better. Whew so glad I made that decision now before i went on some crazy tangent based great post review dude, i know this was 3 years ago but… I digress.
Great article. Pax3 still my first and only and that is less than a year but once you become one with the pax3 and you find 100 on the ground you’ll be happy.
The one that began that was cloudy, not the iq or pax, i think I’ll try that one.
Psss don’t think i didn’t see what you did in the comments lol. Very clever when asked between each of the others and each time siding with the not pax3 option lol. Unless of course fast heating time: check, smaller: check…
Enjoy your moments and smile.
I’m about to get a pax 3 for $81 that is pretty much why I’m doing it lol. Can’t find such a price for a premium vape anywhere.
Hey Ted, I recommend you are extra careful of under-priced Pax units, they are very strict about their minimum advertised pricing, and their distribution to prevent grey market units, so the under-priced pax’s are quite often low quality counterfeits. The Pax is very reliable though so a 2nd hand Pax for a cheap price isn’t a bad option (whereas a lot of portable vapes are not reliable enough to recommend a used one)
The instructions say to charge PAX 3 with the supplied USB charging cord and plug into a computer. This doesn’t make good sense….am I missing something???
Almost any USB cord and plug SHOULD work, however lower quality and powered ones do exist so they recommend you use the supplied plug, and I think they recommend a computer USB port just because it’s less likely to be an under powered knockoff wall brick. The other part that may be confusing you, is that the Pax 3 does not have a micro usb plug itself, you must plug it into the small block that comes with the Pax 3, and then the Pax unit itself magnetically hooks to the block.
Just want to thank you for the great detailed reviews!
Awesome website!
i TOO WOULD LIKE TO Thank you for the detailed review. Love the website!
Thank you for the kind words.
Deciding between the Pax 3 and DaVinci Miqro. Battery life, chamber size, smoke production, smell reduction are key. Would appreciate your thoughts. Also your top 3 conduction and convection vapes?. Thank you:)
I prefer the Pax 3 in most ways, however the Miqro does win slightly in size/portability. The Pax has much better battery life and produces thicker vapor. My top 3 conduction vapes would be the Pax3, IQ, and Miqro depending on you specific needs, and the top 3 convection vapes would be the Crafty/Mighty (hybrid convection) and the FF2+ and Ghost MV1.
how do u clean air path tube??
isn’t that tube removable??
Not removable but the device comes with pipe cleaners. You can put a little bit of ISO on the pipe cleaner and push it through the air path. I also like to remove the herb from the chamber as soon as I’m done with a session to stop any of the resin from sliding down the vapor path.
Cool tip. Thanks
Got the PAX 3 after being a regular smoker for almost 10 years. I think the pax lives up to the hype. After a lil hit and trial, I now get great clouds and taste.
A thing I learnt is to pack the oven a little more than the half and keep the half oven lid butting out a couple of millimeters. This effectively works as the pusher and vented lid combo I guess. I get nice clouds at less temperatures.
Agreed! This is a great way to use the Pax 3. I haven’t used the full pack lid in such a long time. Usually only use it when it’s multiple people. Thanks for the comment and the insight!
Just received a Pax3 as a gift. New to this vaping thing. I’ve only used it a couple of times. Should I be seeing smoke when I exhale? The few times I’ve used it there is almost no smoke when exhaling. Am I doing something wrong? Just trying to figure this thing out. Thanks
I would try using the half-pack lid, grind super fine and pack the chamber pretty tight. This will help heat the chamber better and give you some more satisfying hits. Let me know how it goes! Thanks for the comment!
I’m very curious how the Pax 3 matches up to the Grasshopper. This will be my first vaporizer (and hopefully last) and to say I’m OCD when it comes to the getting the most out of my product would be an understatement. I want one that has good flavor and airflow ect. but those things are all backseat concerns. With that in mind and doing a lot of research would most conduction Vaporizers be out of the picture except ones that have an “Flavor” type mode because in the process of heating up the chamber the product is in would in turn consume a minuscule amount of psychoactive compounds? (I know its probably an extremely small amount but bare with me here.) I feel like it could be a hard comparison ’cause the Grasshopper is a pen-style, herb only device as opposed to the Pax which has an oil/wax insert. I’ve heard the Pro’s and Con’s of the Pax but nothing negative about the ‘Hopper, is that cause thiers not much negative about it or its not used enough due to its lack of versatility. I’m a newbie here so nothing I say is on concrete ground because its based mostly on reviews and customer testimonials. Thank you.
The biggest problem with the Grasshopper is reliability. It does come with a lifetime warranty so they will always fix it but may take some time. I prefer convection units like the Grasshopper because you’re not wasting any material while the unit is heating up. You’re only using the herbs when you draw from the unit. Even the ones with the “flavor” mode will still be heating herbs while not in use. It’s sad to say but I think you’ll be overall more happy with the Pax 3. The Grasshopper is a great vaporizer “when it works”. Pax 3 will always work and you won’t have to be without a vape when the Grasshopper breaks on you. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Hi Buzz I love this page.
I’m new into vaping, I regularly smoke but I’m often scared that the shell could bother my neighbors and that doesn’t let me enjoy the session the way I Would like to. I have a session with friends once a week but almost everyday on my own. I’ve read every review on your site and I’ve come to decide between: crafty, pax 3 or Davinci IQ. I’m more of a herb guy but I would like to try concentrates. Would you recommend getting the crafty and another extra vaporizer for concentrates or go directly with the pax? And also, how would yo compare the smell of vapor versus smoke? I would like to reduce as possible the smell without sacrificing the taste. Thanks and sorry for the bad English.
Hey Abraham! Thank you for the kind words and checking out my vaporizer review site! From what you said, I would go with the Crafty or the IQ. My favorite being the Crafty. Just make sure that you fully charge the Crafty battery before you have the session with friends. I prefer the taste, temp and overall ease of use of the Crafty over the other two. If you wanted to try concentrates I would pick up a pen. Something like the Lynx Hypnos or the Yocan Evolve Plus. The Yocan is around $50 and works great.
I would go with the IQ if you wanted replaceable batteries but you’ll need to pick up the glass spacers to reduce the chamber size for single person sessions. The nice thing about the crafty is that you can load any amount in the chamber and it will vape it evenly every time. The IQ needs a fully packed chamber for best results because it’s 100% conduction. Whereas the Crafty is a hybrid (convection/conduction mix).
If it were up to me I would get the Crafty, then the IQ. I think you and your friends will really appreciate the taste and vapor production from the Crafty. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Thank you for replying! I’m almost sold on the Crafty, my last question would be: can you put a glass bong or a bubbler on the crafty? I saw the Arizer uses a glass stem.
Yes they make adapters for both the Crafty and Mighty! Here is what I use: https://www.vaporizerwizard.com/crafty-mighty-water-pipe-adapter-tutorial/
You can also check out adapters like these
thx for the review. I’m going to get one ; )
Awesome! Enjoy! Let me know if you have any questions!
Im new to vaporizer and would like one wherein i can use while working. My concern is the efficiency and smell. I would like minimal loading and taking several hits during break but at the same time i like minimal and almost smell free clouds. Will pax 3 do the trick?? Love your reviews! Superb!
The Pax 3 is a conduction vaporizer which means that it’s heating the entire chamber for the duration of the session. I would check out something like the Firefly 2 or the Grasshopper. The Grasshopper is my personal favorite for use on the go and will work perfect for your situation. It’s the size of a pen and works very well when breaking bowls down into multiple sessions. With the Grasshopper, you can take a quick rip, click it off and go about your business. With the Pax 2, it takes about 20-25 seconds to heat up and then you’re better off loading a full chamber which means you will be wasting some herbs during the heat up and cool down process.
Let me know if you have any questions!
Does the pax 2 Bluetooth up to the app?
The Pax 2 does not have Bluetooth or the app, both of those were newly introduced features with the Pax 3.
The Pax3 is good, but the concentrate bowl needs redesigning. I’ve had butter bubble out every start & make a mess in & out. I suggest taller inside airtubes, or taller bowl(maybe drop the bowl tight to the bottom cover, which would need a hole in order to replace the loss of air gap it now has). A little more heat wouldn’t hurt, either. Just saying.
I am tying to find a good portable vaporizer for medical use, would this be a good fit for some one new to vaping? And what kind of smell is produced? Is there a way to minimize or eliminate the smell?
Hey Tofu, you might want to check out my best portables article where I go over my favorite units and what they are strongest at. The Firefly 2 and the Grasshopper are two of the least smelling vapes I use frequently. They both do smell less than the Pax 3 which is a bit smellier than average. With that said, you can cut down on essentially all of the smell from the Pax 3 when its not in use by using the Pax 3 endcaps from Delta 3d Studios which only cost a few dollars.
Now that its March and you’ve had the opportunity to use it over the winter, can you tell me how does it hold up in the snow/moisture/altitude? I am often out in -30 weather on the trail. Thanks!
Hey Grace, the highest altitude I tested this winter was a bit over 8000ft, and the lowest temps I tested was around -10F. The Pax 3 performed well in every cold situation I personally tried. The faster heating seems to help it get up to and maintain temp much better in very cold temps. Pax3 is definitely more water resistant than most other vapes. I have used mine dozens of times during strong snow on chairlift rides, I have accidently dropped it into the powder, and I have also used it in the rain and it still works like new. With that said the oven temp does still drop after long draws in cold temps, so I like to give it 10-15 seconds to reheat in-between draws when it is very cold. Like all vapes in the cold, it’s very important to keep them as warm as possible or the batteries really go downhill fast and hard. While skiing I always try to keep vapes in an inside pocket whenever possible. One final trick I learned back when I skied with the original Pax 1 which had a hard time maintaining temps in the cold was to get a fabric case. Then I would just use the unit while it was inside its case, and it acted as sort of a ‘koozie’ to help insulate the unit.
We have owned the Pax 3 since November. Had an issue with the Unit that holds the wax. We contacted Pax around 6 times and not one person would get back to us with the exception of sending automated emails. Pax customer service sucks and does not back their product. Buyer beware!
Hey B, that is really unfortunate to hear. How did you try contacting them, only via their email? I would try contacting them again, and potentially try another email provider, or a different contact method in case some sort of spam. I did hear that their customer service got overwhelmed after the launch so maybe your ticket just slipped through the cracks as well. Lastly if you have a Reddit account you can contact /u/ojan_at_pax and he will get your sorted out quickly.
In your opinion, what’s the best temperature to vape concentrates like crumble or shatter? I like the flavor setting for the dry herbs, but can’t seem to find the sweet spot for my crumble.
Thanks :)
Boost! I don’t often get to use crumble or wax but that’s the setting I used! Thanks for checking out my site :)
Are the battery lights suppose to come on when you slightly shake the Pax 3??? This is what it states in the small manual that it comes with; however my lights are not going on. I also get just three solid lights and then the last one just keeps blinking no matter how long it is on the charger. Is this right or is something wrong with this unit???
Try resetting the colors to the default color setting on the app and then check everything again. Otherwise I would contact Pax vapor directly and see what they have to say.
Wondering how it is holding up on the slopes?
Great! No problems. Heat up times are slightly higher at about 25 seconds. Battery life is good and no scratches or dings on the shell. I just wouldn’t keep it in the same pocket as your keys or anything else that could scratch the shell.
Firefly 2 vs. Pax 3? I have the Firefly and like it buts it’s bulky, the battery wears down quickly, and the concentrate function necessitates very heavy draw wor.
The Firefly 2 will perform similar to your FF1, but its smaller, about half the weight, and its a bit easier and more consistent at providing vapor quality. Since you already have the FF1 I would suggest going with Pax 3 so then you have both an on demand unit and a session unit. That way you will have a unit that will thrive in any situation
First, The app is not up and running yet. I personally tried the PAX3 and found the vape quality with its herb attachment not very fulfilling. I just could not get that quality vape that I got from the Mightly or Crafty by Storz & Bickel. With the concentrate attachment, I got great quality and tasty vapes, but the concentrate attachment got stock inside the unit and Is till can not get it out. The plastic lid attachment to the concentrate unit melted and is no longer attaching to the aluminum concentrate dish. Badly designed. I was extremely cautious not to over fill with concentrate and I kept it standing at all times. It leaked miserably. I contacted the company couple of days ago for a solution and I’m still waiting. I will keep you updated.
Yikes, let me know how it goes. APP goes live on the 28th of December 2016. I haven’t had any leakage problems with mine but maybe you had a dirty or bad seal. Are you using it mainly for concentrates or for dry herb? I use mine for dry herb 90% of them time so I’ll try it to use it more and see how it holds up.
Yesterday, I purchased a PAC 3, to wild excitement from all the store at Livewell in Denver. I was told, before you you use it to go on line and register it.
I attempted to do as instructed. THERE IS NO WAY TO REGISTER the product and there is no way get operation instructions. There is NO website and today LiVWELL will not refund my money
Hey Terry, you will want to register your Pax directly on their own site here. There should also be a small user guide in the box, its on about 2 inch by 2 inch paper folded up. If you are unable to find that, you can check out the Pax 3 FAQ on their site here. Lastly I would be more than happy to answer any specific questions or problems you might have.
Purchasing a gift for a will-be-first-time vaping friend who has been tasting via glass bowl for years, and other methods prior. How much taste loss will she experience with the PAX3? And how much would you say she gains back if i purchase the Firefly2 instead? I want her to enjoy the switch! Thank you in advance.
Hey And, while the FF2 does taste better than the Pax3, both units will taste better than smoking through glass. Your friend will be able to taste the unique traits of her herbs much easier through a vaporizer. If she sticks to only vapes for a week or two, and then tries smoking again she will likely be blown away by how much it tastes like ash, and not the specific traits of the herbs she is consuming. The Pax 3 is very simple, easy, and consistent, so I think that would be the better choice for a first timer. I do love the FF2 but it takes more technique/practice to get the best results so it’s not always the best for brand new users.
What’s the best grinder to use for loose leaf?
For conduction units like the Pax 3, I prefer the MFLB Finishing Grinder which produces a very fine grind, and for convection portables and most desktop units I prefer the Santa Cruz Shredder which provides a more coarse/chunky grind
Just received my PAX 3 and I have only good things to say except I am disappointed that the Bluetooth Functions are not as yet presently available, so when?
The PaxVapor app from the app store doesn’t work for me. I have the beta app they gave me for developers and testers which works but doesn’t help you guys. I’ll send out an email and see what the dealio is.
Edit: It looks like they are aiming for a Jan 1 launch.
Hey Buzz,
I’m in the market for a new vape ,my v2 pro3 just crapped out.
Grass Hopper or pax 3 ?
can you tell us the pros and cons of each?
thanks!
Hey Eric! Check out my Pax 2 vs GH Comparison. The Pax 2 is basically the same as the Pax 3 except the Pax 3 will have the quicker heat up, better battery life and option for concentrates.
This is the 8th review I’ve read on the PAX 3. All go on forever, saying the same damn things, and NOT A SINGLE ONE SAYS WHAT THE PARTS ARE MADE OF, which, personally, is the only thing I care about.
Unless every heated part, anything that touches herb or lips, is glass or ceramic, I have no interest.
What are the parts made of?
Stainless steel chamber, stainless steel vapor path, food grade silicone mouthpiece.
Hi Buzz, what about the plastic oven lid cover, especially the half pack cover which sits deep inside the oven. This hot plastic is my only reservation with the pax unit… any thoughts or knowledge on this plastic and potential for inhaling microscopic polymer molecules? Thanks!
Hey Steve,
I understand being wary of plastic. I do know they use high heat medical grade plastic which is rated to go to a much higher heat temperature than the oven can ever experience.
Hi Buzz ! I realy want to buy a vape but i dont know witch onde os better, crafty ir Pax 3 could u help me?
Thanks
I prefer the taste and overall consistency of the Crafty. The Pax 3 is the better option if you wanted to use it for concentrates or if you needed the more portable unit. The Pax 3 also has much better battery life and comes with a 10 year warranty. But once again, the overall session experience is much better with the Crafty.
I bought the pax3 complete kit. thanks
Great, thorough review! I loved the breakdown of the heat up times per temperature setting. When using the concentrarte insert, do you have to remove the oven lid so it the insert can fit flush? Any hiccups connecting the vape via Bluetooth with the app? I know the battery is bigger but I hope the constant Bluetooth in the vape will not drain the battery too quickly.
Hey Arty! Thank you for the kind words. The concentrate lid doesn’t sit flush with the unit. I believe they made it that way so you can remove it. With the dry herb lids (half-pack and regular), you have to push down on either side to open the lids. But the concentrate insert takes up pretty much the entire chamber so it can only slide right out with no space on the sides. That’s just my guess. No problems with the app draining battery life.
Connect to bluetooth, pedal flashes everytime you turn on , waste of battery, an waste of 300 dollars FML!
Do anyone know when the Pax 3 will be available (date) for sell?
No word yet but I will update this article as soon as its available.
and i wanted it for Christmas :'(
Just got mine yesterday, it does heat fast. I like the concentrate option but like to have extra inserts for the concentrate for on the go.
I am torn between Pax 3 and Davinci I.Q. Which one do you recommend? I plan on mostly use for flowers anyway.
So far I think it comes down to the Pax 3 having better battery life/quicker charge time and I’m enjoying the session more with the IQ. The IQ is probably the best tasting conduction vaporizer that I have tested and it produces some pretty big clouds if that’s your thing. The Pax 3 is still very sleek and the easiest to conceal. I’m looking forward to bringing both out on the slopes this winter and really testing the durability/portability/reliability of both.
Hello, that was a very informative review and filled in a few gaps that other reviews seem to have not touched on specifically the virtues of this vape compared to the Crafty and the FF2. I have a couple of questions about the odor aspect. I checked out the vape caps you suggested and the reviews there are very good, everyone seems happy but I notice that the manufacturer suggests the bottom cap around the oven shouldn’t be fitted during use which I then assume means that these caps are for storage purposes only. That being said, I’ve looked around and found the blackrockog case.
1) could you have a scan inside and tell me whether you think there are advantages for a having one of those cases instead as they seem fairly compact versus the caps which are loose?
2) Apart from the clear difference in price, are there any benefits in having the caps over the case?
3) Are there products available to hide the odor during use, something that fits around the oven or most of the vape? I haven’t vaped before but the idea of being able to use it in public without having to look over my shoulder is appealing.
Thanks!
Hey James,
I have not used that BlackrockOG case, so I cannot compare them to the caps, but the caps may actually do a better job with smell, since they completely seal off the top and bottom of the Pax.
1.) I think the biggest advantage to the larger case is the extra space, so you could carry some extras in there, it also looks pretty nice too.
2.) I think the biggest advantage to the caps are the very small size (when you pull them off to use the Pax, they take almost zero space in your pocket) and I know they stop smells very well, whereas the other zipper cases I have used have been less than stellar at stopping smells (But I have not tried the BlackrockOG)
3.) The part that will smell the most during use is actually going to be your exhales, but it won’t smell near as strong as smoke, and the smell goes away much quicker. Vapor is also quite a bit thinner/lighter and unless you have good lighting it can be tougher to see so its pretty easy to do in public. For the least smell you would keep the Caps on your Pax until you pull it out to use it, then you will vape, and then toss the caps back on after your finish the oven before throwing it back into your pocket, bag, car etc.
Pretty much answered my question as well — looking at the Pax 3 as a good concert vape and thinking the caps will be perfect. That’s been the only problem with conduction vapes I’ve tried, including the Pax 1 — way too conspicuous in terms of residual odor. Now, in terms of odor of exhale, easy: Smoke Buddy Jr.
So with exhale odor out of the equation, would you agree that with the caps and the “stealth” or “flavor” modes, that the Pax 3 would be my choice for odor stealth, Buzz?
I do think that it’s a great option, and it would serve you well. I find the lower temps are easier to mask the smell, and I also prefer to empty my ovens when they are finished to help reduce smell a bit further.
The pax 3 with caps is the way to go for stealth. I’ve used in public many times, day and night. Concerts, ball games, the mall lol. I’ve found that if the temp is set under 275, you get plenty of vapor without the overbearing smell.
Which one would you rather use if you’re an active user: the firefly 2 or the pax 3?
I would go for the Pax 3. The Firefly 2 requires a long and slow draw which is quite tough to do if you are ever out of breath or winded. Meanwhile the Pax is pretty forgiving with draws so it works well with long slow draws, or you can take a bunch of short sips with the Pax as well if you are out of breath and it still performs well. I also trust the Pax 3 will handle abuse and bangs much better than the FF2. While I have not dropped my Pax 3 yet, my OG Pax and Pax 2 have really had a rough life and they are both still working well. I have dropped them in the dirt and rocks while biking, taken them to high elevation windy cold skiing conditions and accidentally dropped them in the snow and they are still going strong. If something does go wrong, you get the 10 year warranty with the Pax 3 compared to the 2 years with the FF2
What do u think crafty or pax 3? I had crafty n loved it. Had pax 2 n not so much kinda annoying after awhile clogged up and cleanjng was a pain in the ass. Do u think the improvements have made a difference or u think i should stick w my crafty. Thanks. Sorry dont know how to leave a comment so did it on a reply
Probably wanna stick with your Crafty or the check out the new Davinci IQ. The improved heat up time and temp control are nice but the Pax 3 functions pretty much the exact same as the Pax 2.
Pax 3 all the way. I have both and the pax 3 has better battery life, better draws, more sleek and discrete, etc… the flavor for dry herb is much better on the pax 3 in my opinion but as far as concentrates it’s a toss up. They also improved the mouth piece from the pax 2 so that’s another plus. Not much negative I can say about pax 3. My FF2 had major battery life issues even after I sent it in for repair. The FF2 mouth piece and screen is a major pain in the butt and It’s also still pretty clunky especially compared to pax even though they made it smaller than the FF1. I’d give the FF2 an 8 overall and the pax 3 a 9. The only complaint I have about the pax 3 is that the concentrate lid doesn’t sit flush and it may get lost over time so hopefully they have replacement ovens sooner than later. I’d definitely go with Pax 3.
Do you know if the Pax 2 End Caps’ for less than $3 from Delta 3d Studios to conceal excess smell, fit on the Pax 3? I will definitely need some since I plan on vaping almost everywhere, and would like to have them ready for when the Pax 3 comes out.
Yea same dimensions. They should work just fine.
Yes they work just fine. I never leave home without them. Unfortunately after a night of partying, I seldom get home with both. No worries. I ordered a dozen.
So I was wondering about the concentrate insert for the pax 3. You said in your article that the pax 3 has the same bowl size as the pax 2. I was wondering if I could use the pax 3 wax insert with my pax 2 as a different lid for the unit.
It does fit fine in the Pax 2. But no word on if or when they will officially release them for individual sale.
I’ve read on Reddit that they aren’t planning on releasing it but I’m sure pax 3 users who don’t use it will sell the insert
At some point, Pax 3 users are going to lose or ruin the canister for the concentrate insert so they will need to have replacements available for purchase.
I would like a 2nd or 3rd insert to pre-load for use when on the go.
Chiming in here out of turn. Apologies on that.
I have had a Pax 2 for just over three years and it is no longer producing enough heat to make vapor even when turned up all the way, freshly cleaned and fully charged. Customer service did not respond to my first ticket. I filled in another and opted for an online chat. As there are no warning lights, they immediatly denied to cover the issue and kept circling around to operator error – drawing too hard, using inferior product, tamping material wrong, cleaning technique, etc… It was obvious that they are given a script that is meant to blame the customer. To get a sense of their customer service approach, try to go on line and find a contact number for the company. None available. We paid $297 for this device and only got a third of the way through it’s coverage before it died. Don’t purchase unless you would be happy with that situation
Really sorry to hear they are making you jump through hoops. I would contact them again, a lot of times individual cases slip through the cracks, and a couple have contacted after experiencing a similar situations. Both times I recommended they got back in contact with Pax support and in the end they eventually had their units warrantied at no cost. I know this is a huge annoyance, but you are still under warranty so I would keep at it since you paid out a good chunk of your hard earned money.