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Pax 2 Vaporizer Review


Pax 2 Vaporizer Review [4k Video] ~14:13

The Pax 2 portable vaporizer is smaller, lighter, more durable and easily one of the most reliable vaporizers that you can currently buy. The Pax 2 comes with better battery life, a deeper oven for more even heating and four different heat settings now instead of three on the original. The new temp range is also a wider spectrum. 10 degrees lower and 10 degrees higher for a bit more control during your sessions.

There are a couple things I don’t really dig like the weak magnet on the charging dock and the draw resistance (improved with half-pack lid) but the Pax 2 has been my go-to portable vaporizer for “outdoor” activities for quite some time now.

The small form factor and tough outer shell make it one of the most durable portable vaporizers for outdoors activities like mountain biking, hiking, skateboarding, rollerblading, skiing/snowboarding, etc…

I have dropped it in the snow, ran over it with my bike, dropped it on the trails many times and the Pax 2 is still going strong.

You also get a 10-year warranty for that extra little piece of mind.

If you’re already sold, I recommended picking up the Pax 2 ($199) from one of my recommended authorized online stores: Direct from PaxVapor or via Vapeworld. Read on below to get my full Pax 2 review.

Update: The Pax 3 is now available and retails for $274.99. Key upgrades with the Pax 3 include the ability to vape both dry herbs and concentrates with the newly designed concentrate lid, a 15-20 second pre-heat time, slightly larger battery (3500mAh vs 3000mAh Pax 2), Full Temp Spectrum via the Pax Labs Smartphone App (Bluetooth), and haptic feedback.

Pax 2 Review


Overall, I’m really impressed with the Pax 2 and the lack of cleaning/maintenance involved compared to the old unit. I would say that was my biggest complaint with the original unit. I rank the Pax 2 highest of all in terms of portability. The Pax 2 has a stealthy slim design which makes it very easy to pocket and conceal out in public. Especially with the new flush mouthpiece design.

The Pax 2 is a big improvement over the previous model and a big contender with other top portable vaporizers currently on the market. It comes with new innovative features like redesigned mouthpieces that are able to sense the presence of your lips and optimize power/temp regulation during use. This helps the Pax 2 be a little bit more efficient than the original but still not quite as good as convection vapes like the Firefly 2.

I believe the Pax 2 (and now Pax 3) produce some of the best overall vapor quality from any conduction portable. It’s very smooth and tasty at lower temps and can produce bigger clouds on higher temps.

Pax 2 Size and Portability


pax 2 vs pax heat up
The Pax 2 weighs 90.2g and the exact dimensions are 3.87” tall, 1.21” wide and .08” deep. This makes the Pax 2 one the best vapes in terms of portability and discretion. The only vapes smaller jump you into pens like the Grasshopper which is lighter and thinner, but it is still longer. The original Pax came in around 98g so the Pax 2 is a bit smaller in size and about 8-10g lighter, and the newest Pax 3 ist the exact same size but a few grams heavier so the Pax 2 is still king of portability and pocket-ability.

I really like the discretion and concealment offered with the flat mouthpiece design. The mouthpiece is completely different from the original Pax model and it sits flush with the top. There’s basically no way that you could tell what it was because it doesn’t have a mouthpiece. This also makes the cleaning very minimal because there are no clicking components in the top to gunk up. So far so good in this category.

Heating and Temp Options


The four different Pax 2 temperatures are set at 360/380/400/420 Fahrenheit or roughly 180/193/204/215 celsius.

To quote their CMO “We redesigned the PAX 2 to have both the lip-sensing, and a new heating algorithm that adjusts temperature dynamically based on how you use it. We also focused the temp algorithm on the materials themselves, rather than the oven temp, to make sure the draw was consistent from first to last.”

I’ve personally noticed that I get a better flavor for longer compared to the original Pax. The new heating technology also uses my herbs more efficiently and it’s better at breaking single oven packs into multiple sessions. If you pick up the half-pack lid from the accessory section of the Paxvapor store you can improve efficiency even further.

Chamber Info and Bowl Size


pax 2 vs pax oven chamber sizeThe Pax 2 uses a stainless steel oven that is 91% the size of the original Pax, but it’s a bit deeper and not quite as wide which helps vape your herbs a little more evenly as there is a higher surface area of material being heated. For optimal results a fully packed oven is recommended, when fully packed the Pax 2 oven holds roughly .30-.40 grams of herbs depending on how fine or coarse the grind is, with the half-pack lid the oven holds .15-.20 grams.

Battery Specs, Charging System and Battery Life


The battery claims to provide up to 30% more usage from the previous model and I’ve found that I get about 90 minutes per charge on the Pax 2. Not only does the Pax 2 give you above average battery life from a single charge, it also charges faster than a lot of other units in only about 100 minutes. Lastly the batteries Pax uses have been known for really great longevity so you can expect your battery continue to perform well for years to come. If you need a vaporizer with better battery life than the Pax 2 I would check out the Mighty.

pax 2 usb charging system

The Pax 2 is charged via a magnetic USB charging dock which just attaches to the outside of the PAX 2. Nothing to plug in on the vaporizer, just attach it to the outside and it starts charging. Pretty cool. Plus it’s USB so you can charge it pretty much anywhere and/or pick up a battery pack for use on the go. The battery is NOT replaceable which is my only gripe.

*BONUS the old Pax charger will unplug from the base and plug into the new magnetic USB charging on the Pax 2. So you can charge the Pax 2 directly from the wall with your old Pax charger which is pretty cool.

Pax 2 Accessories


The Pax comes with an extra raised mouthpiece that is sort of similar to the original Pax. I’m not a big fan of it because it seems to get a little warm on the lips. Plus I really like the new flush design. No mouthpiece lube in this kit because you don’t need it! It does come with a decent sized bottle of ISO and some high quality pipe cleaners that clean the vapor path. Just dip them in iso and clean the vapor path and you’re done. Very minimal compared to the older model.

*Update* I now recomend people pick up the $13 Half-Pack lid when purchasing their Pax 2. It lowers draw resistance, and allows you to use a half loaded oven (.15-.20grams) efficiently now.

Warranty Information


The Pax 2 comes with a 10-year manufacturer warranty and I have never ever ever had a problem with the Pax customer support. When someone tells me reliability and warranty/customer support is the most important factor in their vaporizer decision, the Pax 2 is the vape immediately recomend.

Pax 2 Vaporizer Comparisons


Firefly 2 ($329) – The Firefly 2 is the one of the best “pure convection” portable vaporizers currently on the market. It’s definitely not as stealthy or lightweight as the Pax 2 but the Firefly 2 is my highest rated portable vaporizer for vapor quality (taste, temp, vapor production). It also heats up in 5-7 seconds including pre-heat so you can get in a quick session while you’re on the go. To get the improved vapor quality over the Pax 2 the Firefly is larger, heavier, and takes more practice/technique to use. It really depends on what kind of sessions you are looking for. If you want a more duble, portable, consistent vaporizer with longer sessions go with the Pax 2. If you want the best vapor quality and quick sessions I would go for the Firefly 2

Crafty ($279) – The Crafty vaporizer is a good option if you need to stay portable but want more temp control and less draw resistance. The Crafty comes with a pretty hefty price tag but it’s definitely one of the easiest to use and one of the most consistent portable vapes I’ve tested. No learning techniques or packing techniques. Just load what you want, take your draw and go. The downsides to this unit are the slower heat up time and battery life but the taste and cool temps of the vapor production are totally worth the wait. This is the best vaporizer for people who like a free flowing draw.

Summary: Should you buy the Pax 2 vaporizer?


If you are in the market for a very portable session vape then I definitely recommend that you pick up the Pax 2. The Pax 2 is rated at the top for portability and can be concealed very well.

It is my favorite outdoor activity vape because it works perfect for use out on the ski hills, while mountain biking or doing some hiking. It’s very easy to operate and it works well in both single and group settings.

Now that it has been heavily price dropped down to $200 while still receiving the 10-year warranty I think the Pax 2 is a really strong value.

You can click here to get prices direct from PaxVapor or click here to check it out at VapeWorld.

Video Transcript:

Introduction

Hey guys Buzz here with vaporizerwizard.com and today I’ll be doing a review on the Pax 2 by Paxvapor. The Pax 2 is a solid improvement over the original Pax and definitely a top contender in the portable vaporizer market. They made it smaller, lighter, more powerful and eliminated nearly all of the cleaning problems associated with the original unit.

The Pax 2 comes with some cool new features like lip sensing technology, new temps at a broader range and a deeper oven for more even heating and AVB. The oven is actually 90% the size of the original pax and I’ll talk more about the new chamber later on in this review.

The Pax 2 retails for $279 at the time of this video. You can follow the links below in the about section to pick one up or get the full review with more information and photos on my website. I also have a comparison on my site for the Pax 2 vs Firefly, Pax 2 vs the original Pax and Pax 2 vs Crafty. So if you have it narrowed down to any of those options for portables vapes then be sure to check those out.

So throughout this review, I’ll go over the new features of the Pax 2. Show you the new oven, the mouthpiece changes and break down the new battery system. I’ll do a demo session, compare it some of the other popular vapes like the Crafty. I’ll go over the cleaning and maintenance followed up by my pros and cons and the best place to buy.

OK guys so here is the new Pax 2. Like I mentioned earlier, the Pax 2 comes in about 25% smaller, 10% lighter and 30% higher battery capacity than the original Pax. it’s better in every way in my opinion, especially in the cleaning department.

Intro:

The streamlined design was taken a little further by making my favorite of the two mouthpieces completely flush along the top of the unit. You can completely pass off the new Pax 2 as an MP3 player if you just wrap some headphones around it.

The Pax 2 dropped in overall size and weight. They made it about 8-10 grams lighter and the flush mouthpiece design practically cut an inch off the top of the unit. So with that said, the Pax 2 is currently my highest rated portable vaporizer in terms of portability. Other vaporizers have better qualities like vapor taste or herb efficiency but if you are looking for a vaporizer to easily conceal or completely palm for discretion…I think your best bet might be the Pax 2.

The Pax 2 is considerably lighter than the Firefly which weighs around 240 grams and it’s about 45-50 grams lighter than the Crafty which comes in around 136 grams. As you can see here, there are not too many vapes smaller than the Pax 2.

Features

One of the newest features with the Pax 2 is the lip sensing technology. This works by ramping up heater production during draws to help maintain temps in the chamber. It also lowers starts to lower the temperature when it doesn’t sense your lips to conserve your herbs. This has definitely improved the efficiency of the Pax 2 over the original and I feel like I get better flavor for longer as well. The original Pax was quite the herb hog so the Pax 2 definitely an improvement but I still feel like it’s not quite as efficient as other popular models like the Firefly, Crafty or the Mighty. With that said, the new technology is also much better at breaking down smaller oven packs into multiple sessions.

I contacted Paxvapor to get some more details on new heating and lip sensing technology and here’s what they had to say: “We redesigned the Pax 2 to have both the lip-sensing, and a new heating algorithm that adjusts temperature dynamically based on how you use it. We also focused the temp algorithm on the materials themselves, rather than the oven temp, to make sure the draw was consistent from first to last.”

The Pax 2 comes with accessories including a new magnetic charging dock and Micro-USB charging system, 10 pipe cleaners, a bottle of ISO, a couple screens and two interchangeable mouthpieces. They also redesigned the mouthpiece vapor path, and power button which means NO MORE MOUTHPIECE LUBRICANT! BOOOM>

I’m not a big fan of the raised mouthpiece because I feel like it gets pretty warm on my lips and also gives away some of the concealment factor kind of like the original Pax. The flush mouthpiece design is much better IMO it helps keep the entire unit inconspicuous, and it feels nicer to use. Both mouthpieces are easily swappable and easy to clean.

Heating Element, Oven/Chamber & Vapor Path:

The Pax 2 uses a proprietary heating element with a stainless steel oven, stainless steel vapor path and silicon rubber mouthpieces. The new oven is deeper and slightly smaller width. Overall, it’s 91% the size of the original Pax oven. It still uses the stainless steel screens in the bottom of the oven which is kind of a bummer but they do help regulate oven temp and also cut down on the cleaning needed in the vapor path.

I was able to get about .25 grams with a regular grind and around .4 grams with a fine grind from my MFLB finishing grinder. I was able to produce the best results with the finishing grinder but you definitely don’t need to put .4 grams in the chamber. The new chamber does a much better job with varying pack types and there are a couple new products on the market for partial packs. One is an adjustable stainless steel press that makes the oven size more manageable for single session users. I wrote a blog post about my recommended packing techniques and accessories which you can check out Here and I will be making a new video soon showing all the different methods so you guys can try them all out and see what works best for you. Make sure and subscribe below to check it out when it’s released. I will add in an annotation to this video when it’s up.

Temp Range & Heat up time

The Pax 2 comes with a broader temp range and now offers four different temp settings ranging from 360F – 420F (~180C –415C). The original Pax had three temps ranging from 370-410F. The upgrade in temps is a great addition to the new unit. With the higher temps you can achieve different effects, and with the lower temps you can get even better flavor. For instance, a higher temp towards the end of the night could help you sleep, whereas a lower temp in the morning could be energetic and not quite as heavy. Of course a lot of this depends on the strain and your tolerances. Other vapes like the Crafty and Mighty cut off at 410F.

Pax 2 heat up times seem to range anywhere between 40-60 seconds depending on herb type, pack type, and temp selection. This is about market average or slightly fast for a portable conduction style vaporizer. Other models like the Firefly will provide almost on-demand heat and have you vaping in 5-10 seconds if that’s what you are looking for but you also don’t really get the session vape experience. The Firefly is meant to be used quickly and kill a bowl in 5-8 hits whereas the Pax 2 is meant for 10-15 draws over the course of a 10-15 minute session. This makes the Pax 2 a great group vape especially with how big the chamber is.

Battery and charging system.

I’ve found the Pax 2 to get about 80 minutes of average continuous use which is one of the best on the market, especially in such a small size. If you needed better battery life then I recommend the MUCH larger Mighty, or something like the Haze with user replaceable batteries so you can charge a couple before you head out.

The Pax 2 uses a Micro USB charging system which allows you to charge it practically anywhere especially now that you can pick up external battery packs. These battery packs will charge the Pax 2 multiple times from dead for under $20. This works perfect for me when I’m going skiing or hiking for the day.

The downside to the new charging system is that when charging via USB, it takes more time to fully charge the Pax 2 from dead than the original Pax. A little bonus tip for original Pax users, you can actually use the charging cable and block from the original Pax to charge the Pax 2. The female plug will connect to the magnetic charging dock and charge faster than the USB option.
Another downside to the new charging dock is that it doesn’t have a very strong magnet. So let’s say you have it in your backpack connected to a battery pack charging, the Pax can easily come off the charger. Or if you leave it sitting up on your desk, it could fall over and disconnect. Best way to combat this is to wrap a rubber band around the unit and the charger holding it in place or charge it flat parallel to the ground.

If you don’t have the original Pax charging base then just find a charging brick around that house that charges USB. I recommend using one with a 2 or 2.1 amp output for the best results.

How-to-use the Pax 2 vaporizer:

The original Pax was simple to use as and the Pax 2 probably even easier now because of the new power and temp change button which is no longer located in the vapor path. You can power on and off the device with a quick press in the center of the mouthpiece. You can also power it on with the mouthpiece removed so you can use it with water pipe adapters and bubblers.

I found the Pax 2 takes about 40-70 seconds to heat up depending on your loading style, herb type, starting temp, grind type, and better level. I tested multiple different grind types and you can use them all but I definitely noticed much better vapor production when I used the MFLB finishing grinder. The Pax 2 will glow purple while it’s heating up and green when the device has finishing pre-heating.

You can change the temp to any of the four settings by first holding down the mouthpiece button for about 2 seconds. You can then cycle through the temp settings using short presses. Once you have selected the temp setting that you want, just hold down the button again for 2 seconds and it will continue to pre-heat. You can also shake the device to select the temp setting and continue pre-heating.

I recommend climbing the temp settings by starting off at temp 2 or 3 and working your way up to temp 4 towards the end of the bowl. The first few draws will be the best tasting with lighter vapor production and as you go on through the session raising the temps, the vapor density will increase while the vapor taste will drop off after the first 2-3 draws.
The Pax 2 will also cool down a bit after 30 seconds of no movement to preserve battery life and herbs. The Pax 2 also drops oven temp if it doesn’t sense your lips on the mouthpiece for 20 seconds. Lastly, if the Pax 2 doesn’t move or sense your lips for a total of three minutes, it will turn off the unit completely.

You can shake the device at any time while it’s powered on to check batter life. One light is 0-25%, two lights is 25-50%, 3 is 50-75% and all four is 75-100%.
Lastly, Paxvapor released multiple versions of the Pax 2 which all include their own little library of games, modes, and some even play a faint “funky town” jingle. You can check out more info about how to unlock these games by checking out the blog on my site.

Cleaning

The Pax 2 is much easier to clean than the original and even most other portables now that they removed the power on mechanism from the vapor path. All of these problems have been fixed and the only cleaning needed has been limited to putting a little bit of iso on the end of the cleaning pipe and running it through the vapor path and then a little bit of ISO on a q-tip to clean the mouthpiece and chambers.

Now I have noticed that the unit performs better in general if you keep up with the maintenance. One of the things that will dirty up your Pax 2 faster is using the MFLB finishing grinder. So yes, you can get much better results with a fine grind but it does cause the Pax 2 to get dirtier faster.

But like I said, if you regularly maintain it, just like any other portable vaporizer… it will continue to produce great results for you without any increased draw resistance or other downsides.

The Pax 2 does come with a bottle of ISO and 20 cleaning pipes so you’ll just need some q-tips.

So I think I’ve covered pretty much everything that you need to know about the Pax 2. Let’s go ahead and jump into the vape session.

Vape Session and Demo:

I’ve loaded up the Pax 2 oven with some finely ground herbs out of my MFLB finishing grinder and I’ve loaded it pretty tightly because this will produce the densest vapor. You can use much less herb in the oven and still get good results but the vapor will be less dense with a smaller load, or looser pack.

I have a couple different solutions for smaller single user sessions using the screen trick, or the Pax Pusher that I picked up from new vape. The stainless steel press shrinks the size of the chamber so you can use less herbs while still having a tight pack to get the best results. I have more info about these on my site.

So turn the unit on by pressing the mouthpiece button in the center. I’ve selected temp 3 and will bump up to temp 4 after a few of draws.

The Pax 2 will glow green when it’s fully pre-heated and you are ready to begin your session. The Pax 2 does have some draw resistance compared to say the Crafty or Mighty. The best way to deal with this is the slow your draws down and basically sip from it like you would a hot coffee or tea but for a long slow duration. I recommend around 15 seconds. One trick you can use to minimize the draw resistance a bit is to barely open one side of the oven lid. This seems to increase air flow and draw resistance a bit for me.

Another feature that stayed with the Pax 2 is Party Mode and I couldn’t really find any specifics on just what it does so once again I reached out to Paxvapor to see what they had to say:
Sessions with the Pax 2 can range from 5 minutes to 25 minutes depending on your loading styles, herb type, and grind type. It can also vary depending on how many people are in the session and if you’re consistently drawing from the unit or if you are letting the unit heat back up in between draws.

The Pax 2 is very easy to use and does extremely well in group settings as long as you explain to your fellow vaporents the draw technique.
I recommend finishing off a bowl on temp four to get any remaining vapor. You’ll notice you’re at the end of the bowl when the hits become less dense and the herbs in the chamber are a brown to dark brown in color.

One thing I like to do with the Pax 2 is take a couple draws from the unit after I turn it off. This will get any remaining vapor out while the unit is cooling down. This way when I put the unit back in my pocket or backpack, it doesn’t smell quite as bad as if I were to just throw it in while it’s still cooling down.
So now that we’ve demo’d the Pax 2, let’s go over my pros and cons.

First off the best feature of the Pax 2 is the Portability and overall size of the unit. You can easily conceal it in your pocket. I really like the simplistic design of the new mouthpiece button and the flush design of the mouthpiece itself. You can still power on the Pax 2 using gloves while out skiing which is something that I really liked in the original.

Next would be the Micro USB charging system. It doesn’t charge the unit quite as fast as the original but you have more options as far as charging goes such as cars with a USB port, external battery packs, solar charges etc. Like I mentioned earlier you can use the old AC charging block from the original Pax to charge the new Pax 2 faster.

The Pax 2 is really easy to use on the go and the temps are much easier to change on this unit than the original. Just hold down for 2 seconds and then short presses to select your temp and 2 seconds to finalize it.

I also really like the rugged design of the Pax 2. The outer shell is all metal and can handle plenty of abuse. This is why I feel like the Pax 2 is the easiest vape to use for outdoor activities like hiking, skiing/boarding, biking or whatever crazy stuff you guys are getting in too.

The new heating system produces better vapor density than the previous model when loaded correctly and lastly, the Pax 2 works well in both single and group scenarios.
The first con would have to be the draw resistance. It’s nowhere near the free flowing vapor path of the Crafty and requires a bit of a “sipping” technique to get the best draws. Now this is really easy to pick up on but you will definitely need to break it down for your buddy that’s using it for the first time.

Next con would be the Charging System. Yes I realize it’s a pro but it has some things I don’t like about it as well. First off, like I mentioned earlier, the time to fully charge from dead is increased overall unless you have an old pax and charging via the old charger cable. Second, the magnet that keeps the new USB dock attached to the unit is NOT very strong at all. So this can create some problems if you are trying to charge it anywhere other than a flat surface. You can fix this by wrapping a rubber band around the unit and charging dock.

Next would be the plastic oven lid. I feel like you get much better conduction from a stainless steel lid like on the old Pax unit but I haven’t noticed any big problems maintaining temp.
Lastly, and I’m being a little picky here, the new Pax 2 doesn’t come with an instruction manual. You have to go online to look up the directions which matters very little in the scheme of things but I’m a nerd and I like to read those things.

Outro:

So overall, the Pax 2 is a big improvement over the original Pax and definitely a game changer in the portable vaporizer market. The new mouthpiece design eliminated mostly all the cleaning problems associated with the old unit and I really like the upgraded temperature range. Don’t forget that the Pax 2 comes with one of the best warranties in the vaporizer space at 10 years. They have always been awesome to deal with and quick to take care of any problems no matter what it may be.

If you are ready to buy the Pax 2 you can click the follow the buy link below in the about section. That link will take to you to an authorized dealer and make sure you get the 10 year warranty. Please like and subscribe below if this video helped you out at all. I’ll be making posting a lot more vaporizer reviews, comparisons, and cleaning tutorials here in the near future. So stay tuned and if you guys have any questions about the Pax 2 or any other vaporizer, feel free to leave a comment below or contact me on my blog, vaporizerwizard.com. Thanks for watching my pax 2 vaporizer review and take it easy!

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Overall Score
Pax 2 Vaporizer Review

Overall the Pax 2 is a great improvement over the original Pax. They eliminated nearly all the cleaning problems with the new redesigned mouthpieces and added in some innovative features to make it more efficient. It's still a session vaporizer which means that it's best for longer uses and not someone that needs a quick session. Great battery life and comes with a 10 year warranty. I highly recommend this vape if you need something portable. It's super easy to conceal and could easily pass as an mp3 player. Leave a comment below and let me know what you think.

116 Comments

  • Tre Day says: March 22, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    BRUH!

    I just bought a PAX (the original). I like it alot but should I get the PAX 2 and sell the original to a friend? What are the biggest differences between the two? The only improvement I could possibly think of is a longer battery life. We’ll as you can see I’m torn bruh.

    What should I do? I also like the crafty bruh. Is the Pax 2 better than the crafty? Bruh I need help I’m torn lol

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Biggest differences between the two would have to be the overall size, battery life and the lack of cleaning/maintenance needed on the new model. I didn’t really think they could go smaller but they did and the new mouthpiece is NOT directly in the vapor path now. I haven’t even had to clean mine yet and I’ve been using it pretty much daily since I got it.

      If you can get a good price for the original Pax then yea I would try and sell it. Just the cleaning/maintenance aspect alone makes it worth. Let alone you get better vapor production, longer battery life, and a bit more concealable.

      I still like my Crafty over the Pax 2. One of the downsides to the Pax 2 much like the original Pax is the draw resistance. I didn’t talk about it much in the review but the Pax 2 still has quite a bit of draw resistance. One of features that I really like about the Crafty is the free flowing draws. The vapor produced from the Crafty is much cooler/smoother and much easier to take draws. I also like the fact that the Crafty has a full spectrum temp range meaning you can select any temp from 104 – 410 degrees Fahrenheit to vape at.

      Thanks for checking out my site Tre!

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      • zebrastripes_1p says: May 29, 2015 at 5:34 pm

        I went from the Arizer Solo (great at home unit) to the PAX 2 which I got yesterday and I didn’t think there was any draw resistance at all but that may be because I was use to the Solo. It has its learning curves like when you set it down it cools down so when you pick it back up to draw from you need to wait a few seconds for the lights to turn back to green or you won’t get much of a cloud if any. Now if you get over the learning curve you get huge milky white tasty clouds. The flavor surprised me the most, I wasn’t expecting such great flavor after going from a vape with a glass stem but it is just as good if not better.

        All in all this vape is high class and I highly recommend getting it. Make sure you fully charge it when you get it so as not to mess up the battery, mine took about 45 minutes to fully charge so it had a charge in it already when I got it. I rate it as an A++ for a portable and perfect for the go.

        I was on the waiting list for the Grasshopper which I ordered and paid for in the beginning of February and a ship date of May 15th and then the ship date was delayed to July 15th. They having been delaying ship dates for probably over a year and I’m sure a lot of people are getting pissed and getting a refund to get a quality vape already on the market. I will get the Grasshopper when it is readily available if it ever is. The refund was instant so they have good customer support.

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  • goorgi says: March 31, 2015 at 8:39 am

    What about heat up time of the Pax 2? The old Pax seemed slow to heat up and some of its competitors heat up instantly

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2015 at 10:47 am

      Just did a couple tests with different temps and the average heat up time was around 45 seconds.

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  • hash says: March 31, 2015 at 5:42 pm

    Can you compare the Pax 2 to the Arizer Air? I just picked up the Air and I’m wondering if I should try to sell it and get the Pax 2.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 1, 2015 at 2:19 pm

      EH, I don’t know if I would sell it… but yes, I prefer the Pax 2 over the Air specifically for portability. I really like the new mouthpiece design on the Pax 2 because it sits flush along the top. Very minimal cleaning/maintenance as well. No glass stem to carry around either.

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      • Peter says: May 31, 2015 at 3:47 pm

        Have you used both Arizer Air and Pax 2 and prefer the. Latter? Which would you recommend to someone vamping fir the first time ?

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        • Buzz Danklin says: May 31, 2015 at 4:01 pm

          Yes, I do have both vapes, and I reach for my Pax 2 much more than I reach for my air. The Pax 2 is more portable/discreet and it fits much nicer in my pocket. The glass stems on the Arizer are a bit obnoxious and cumbersome for a portable unit in my opinion.

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      • Shelly says: February 5, 2016 at 5:55 pm

        Hey buzz just got myvery first vaporizer 69 years old I am on medical marajaua bought Pax 2 having trouble drawing from it I smoke alone and I need something fast I guess I bought the wrong one . Regards shelly

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        • Buzz Danklin says: February 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm

          Hey Shelly, when you say you are having trouble drawing from it, are you having problems with too much draw restriction, or are you not getting the results you want? With the Pax 2 you want to grind your herb finely, pack the chamber semi-tightly and full, and then take long slow draws or sips.

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  • random dude says: April 1, 2015 at 12:09 am

    Hey!

    I’m in the market for my first vape. Even though I see a lot of mixed reviews online about the Pax (both the original and the Pax 2), I have only heard good things from friends. I was wondering if you personally believe that the Pax 2 is worth the extra money over the original Pax for someone who does not know very much about vapes.

    The reason that I’ve been leaning towards either of the Pax is because they are about the top of my price range, I know people who like them, and they are very easy to simply take with you wherever you go while remaining inconspicuous for the most part. I plan to use my vape moderately over summer (partially at home and partially out and about) because it is very hard for me to smoke my bong with my parents around or to transport it somewhere that I could smoke it without them asking a lot of questions.

    If you have another suggestion for a vape around the same price range that you think would work better for me than the Pax, I would love to hear it.

    Btw I am a California medical marijuana patient and I only really plan on using flower in the vape.

    Thanks in advance for your help!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm

      Hey Random Dude! ;)

      Thanks for checking out my site man. So yes, I think that the Pax 2 would be worth the extra cash. The cleaning/maintenance difference between the new and the old is worth it IMO. Plus it’s smaller, lighter and a bit better average battery life. It’s good for group settings and very easy to use with friends.

      I would also recommend checking out the Firefly if you think it will just be you and maybe one other person. I really like the vapor quality and production you can get from the Firefly. The Pax 2 has a bit of draw resistance especially with a fully packed chamber whereas the Firefly is a bit more free flowing. Neither of them compare to airflow of the Crafty/Mighty but those are out of the price range.

      TL;DR: Pax 2 (10 year warranty – $279) if you are going to be in group settings and Firefly (5 Year warranty – $269) if it’s just you and a buddy.

      *Also, the Pax 2 is definitely easier to conceal. Firefly has a bit of weight due to the stainless steel design but man does it produce huge clouds.

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      • Sunshine says: April 14, 2015 at 3:20 pm

        Hey thank you that has really helped me I am also a first-time buying a vapor

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      • old school says: April 30, 2015 at 3:46 pm

        I have the original Pax, which I love, as well as the Volcano for about six months. I recently bought the Crafty and the Pax 2 and I can say that the Pax 2 is a great improvement over the original Pax. The original Pax is a fine device but the size, battery life, temperature control, ease of cleaning and vapor quality are all better on the new and improved Pax 2.

        I also love the crafty, which does beat out either Pax in vapor quality. The crafty is my go-to vaporizer. Between the crafty and the Pax 2, I no longer even use my Volcano.

        If I could only have one of these vaporizers, I would get the Pax 2 as the design is great and the portability is outstanding.

        FYI, I have been smoking for 37 years and am a recent convert to vaping.

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        • Buzz Danklin says: April 30, 2015 at 3:51 pm

          I remember when I made the switch man, I don’t even combust at all anymore. Thanks for your review and I appreciate you checking out my site. I’ve been using my CloudEVO recently. That and the Mighty with my D020-D bubbler. Do you have any glass?

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          • old school says: April 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

            I do not have any glass, as of yet, but thanks for the recommendation to the D020-D. Is there any online vendor that you suggest?

            And, while I have enjoyed combusting for decades, I do not combust any longer. after vaping for a few weeks, I smoked from my favorite glass bowl, and then from my favorite water pipe: I was surprised by the taste, which was not good at all. Frankly, I was shocked at the taste and couldn’t believe it was only due to my palate having changed. So, I tried combusting several other strains in my cache immediately. They all tasted quite bad in comparison to vaping. I am a convert and I urge all cannabis connoisseurs to make the switch.

            Thank you for your most excellent reviews!

          • Buzz Danklin says: April 30, 2015 at 5:42 pm

            My pleasure old school, I would check out ‘sunshine store’ on DHGate to get a good D020-D bubbler. I have a link in that article above.

          • mdjenks says: October 9, 2016 at 1:16 pm

            you have the best reviews man and I always use you for a reference, keep up the good work dude!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Buzz Danklin says: October 9, 2016 at 4:43 pm

            I appreciate the kind words, a couple new big name vapes are coming out soon, so keep your eye open for a couple new reviews this month!

        • RAFAEL PUPO says: May 20, 2015 at 2:30 pm

          I have the mighty, it is the king of vapes

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      • pam says: April 18, 2016 at 1:02 pm

        On my second one PAX2 I like it but have to keep 9n replacing it sucks

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        • Buzz Danklin says: April 18, 2016 at 5:48 pm

          Hey Pam, you are actually one of the first people who has reported a broken Pax 2 to me, may I ask how the unit broke on you? Sorry you are having to deal with the hassle of returns, but at its a good thing they have a 10 year warranty!

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  • Johnny Irish says: April 1, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    Quick question!

    I know the grasshopper and pax 2 have different attributes but overall considering price, battery, efficiency etc. If you had to choose between the two as your main vape, which would you choose?

    Jhny

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 2, 2015 at 4:35 am

      They are quite a bit different, you will have to chose which ones fits your needs/wants better. The Grasshopper has near instant heatup, and lots of power, so it’s a really good vape for getting medicated fast, but if you are looking for a vape to have a session with, or pass around with friends, or just casually puff on for enjoyment then the Grasshopper is not the best choice, and the Pax 2 is much better. I find the Grasshopper is really best for 1 or 2 people, whereas the Pax 2 works well with 1 or a group or people. Overall the Pax 2 produces smoother and cooler vapor, but the Grasshopper can produce denser vapor. The battery life on the Pax2 is better since the battery has 4x the juice (750mAh vs 3000mAh) but the GH does have cheap replaceable batteries so you could carry extras. In the end, they are both two of my favorite vapes, and they both get used a lot. With the Pax2 you are paying more, but you are getting a vape that is very versatile, and you are also getting a unit that is currently available and has a proven track record of reliability and customer service. With the GH you are still getting a high quality unit, but at a cheaper price. Unfortunately various things about the GH are still up in the air including the shipping dates, and they don’t have any longterm track record of reliability or customer service.

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      • Johnny says: April 3, 2015 at 3:58 pm

        Perfect, i may get the PAX 2 but not sure when they will ship to europe?

        Thanks!

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  • Zach says: April 2, 2015 at 3:00 am

    Thanks for all your reviews wizard, this is my first time commenting but definitely not my first read. I’m torn between two specific vaporizers, the Pax, and the V2 Pro Series 7 (not to be confused with the Series 3). Have you had a chance to try the V2 Pro Series 7 (again, NOT the 3 :p) and if so, how does it compare/contrast to the Pax?

    I’m an owner of the original Pax and while it does the job, I’d like something that might incorporate better overall flavor — so I’m uncertain of whether to go for the Pax 2 or the V2 Pro Series 7.

    Thanks again!

    Zach

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 2, 2015 at 4:17 am

      Hey Zach, I do have the V2 Pro Series 7, and it’s a solid vape that produces very even AVB without stirring and it has pretty decent flavor. Unfortunately the flavor on the S7 is slightly worse than the original Pax though. The Pax 2 has the best flavor of any conduction vape in my opinion, so the only way to get better flavor than the Pax2 would be to go with something like the Crafty/Mighty/Firefly, and none of them are as portable/discreet.

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  • Evan says: April 5, 2015 at 1:41 am

    Hey Buzz,

    I currently have the original Pax and the Arizer Air, do you think I should upgrade?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 5, 2015 at 9:39 am

      I would… I mean I like the Air for it’s size but the glass stems really turn me off and the cleaning/maintenance involved with the original Pax is quite the turn off with so many new vapes out. YMMV.

      The Pax 2 is so discrete and easy to conceal. You could just wrap a pair of headphones around it and you could use it anywhere. The flush mouthpiece design is night and day better over the original Pax and pretty much cut the cleaning by 70-80%. You still need to clean the vapor path and the oven but overall it’s much much easier and the device will still work if it’s dirty (yay!)… The Pax 2 draw resistance is about the same as the Air and less than the original.

      The new Pax 2 is definitely revolutionary IMO and it’s definitely one that you’re going to want to add to your collection eventually.

      TL;DR: I’m not saying you have to go out and buy it right this instant, (you have two very good vapes now) but yes I would definitely put some dollars away to pick up the Pax 2. It’s worth every penny.

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      • Evan says: April 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm

        Thanks a lot, I think I will be picking this up sometime April, the size of the Pax 2 and the cleaning of the mouth piece are real turn ons for me.

        Thanks for the great review :)

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        • Evan says: April 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm

          As well as that extra heating setting.

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  • Johnny says: April 8, 2015 at 6:33 am

    Hi,

    I can’t seem to find out anywhere on the internet about getting this in Europe? Anyone have any idea? Thanks

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  • Randy says: April 9, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    Hey there,

    I am having a hard time finding much about the actual capacity of the PAX 2. How much tobacco/herb would you say that it holds, and/or how many puffs does a full chamber last for?

    Thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 10, 2015 at 9:46 am

      Hey Randy!

      I was able to get ~.2 grams using my Santa Cruz Shredder and I was able to get ~.4 grams using my MFLB Finishing Grinder. I packed it down pretty tight so I wouldn’t recommend packing it that way lol but you can definitely get a lot in there.

      I’m not quite sure on total draws per session yet because a lot of that depends on temp, pack, herb type but I will try to get some rough estimates together and add them to the review.

      Thanks for noticing the chamber info and I’ll add that as well.

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  • curious cat says: April 13, 2015 at 10:53 am

    Great article!

    How would you compare a Da Vinci Ascent with a Pax ? I’ve researched a lot about both and I know Pax definitely has the bigger following and better reputation, but I want to get your firsthand opinion about it. Why should I get the Pax 2 instead of the Ascent, basically?

    Thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 28, 2015 at 1:59 am

      I really prefer the Pax 2 to the Ascent in nearly every way except battery life. I think the Pax 2 is much more discreet/portable, and it feels better in my pocket. I prefer drawing from the flat mouthpiece on the Pax 2 much more than the Ascent stem. I think the Pax 2 has better vapor quality. My Ascent vapor still has a hint of silicone flavor even after tons of use, and the vapor density is wispier than the Pax 2. The Ascent vapor is cooler though since it is wispier, and has the longer stem to cool it further. The warranty/customer service from Pax is better as well.

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  • josh says: April 21, 2015 at 1:29 am

    hey i’ve had the mflb (which i never cared for) and the iolite original (which is pretty good) and the only problem i had with the iolite was the fact that you have to refill it with butane so often, clean it often, and its kinda noisy. other than that it hit well and was discrete and didn’t leave a huge odor. i was wondering if you were familiar with the iolite and what you thought of it vs the pax 2? i’m really into the design/lack of cleaning and battery life but the price tag means i have to be certain about it. thanks man! love your reviews btw

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 22, 2015 at 3:24 pm

      Hey Josh! Thanks for the kind words man. I think you will really like the upgrade to the Pax 2. The cleaning is pretty minimal compared to the original Pax and is on par with other portable models now. You definitely have to get used to the Pax draw technique (long slow 15-20 draw) to avoid some draw resistance but you will get much bigger clouds than both your previous models with an upgrade in vapor quality as well.

      Only downfall with the upgrade would be that the Pax 2 uses quite a big more herbs than both your previous vapes. Good news is that their are a couple different companies coming out with what they call the #paxsandwhich. This press will help shrink the size of the chamber a bit and not use so much herbs plus still get good consistent results(AVB). I’ll add a section to this pax 2 review as soon as I get some more testing done with them.

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  • Peter D says: April 22, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Hey Buzz,

    I’m completely torn right now between the Pax 2 and the Crafty. The roughly 60-80$ price difference is quite significant for a university student like myself but, they both have things i really like about them. My main concern though, is with the Pax 2’s Vapor quality. I have used older Pax’s in the past and i’ve only really experienced light vapor clouds with weak medicating abilities. As a daily medical marijuana user, do you think the Pax 2 will be sufficient for the (hopefully) years that i own it? Or will it not produce enough dense vapor clouds to meet my needs. Otherwise the Pax 2 has all of the qualities i look for in a vaporizer (stealth, portability, long battery life ect.) so i’m hoping the overall strength and vapor quality will be good enough. Let me know what you think.

    Thanks,
    Peter

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 28, 2015 at 2:31 am

      Hey Peter,

      I have a full Crafty vs Pax 2 comparison you can check out, but he is the quick and dirty:

      The Pax 2 has better vapor quality than the original Pax, but it’s not night and day better. Since they are both conduction units the vapor quality changes quite a bit based upon the grind. I great much denser, and better/more potent vapor when I have an extremely find grind, and a tight/full pack (If you want to use a partial pack, you can use the screen trick, or purchase a Pax pusher) so there is a decent chance you didn’t get the most out of the original Pax you used, and then the Pax 2 would be an even further improvement..

      With all that said, the Crafty puts out more dense/potent/cool vapor at the sacrifice of size/weight/discreetness and battery life.

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  • Josh Johnson says: April 22, 2015 at 10:04 pm

    Hey, awesome review as always. I have never used a vaporizer and am a very light weight smoker. I have an extremely low tolerance and I want to try a small portable vape to be more stealthy than smoking traditionally. I have looked into a few and was leaning towards the MFLB or the Pax 1. However your review makes me maybe want to spend the extra to get this one. Your thoughts? Maybe suggest a different vape completely? Thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 28, 2015 at 2:36 am

      If you are an extremely low tolerance user, I think the MFLB or the Firefly would be the best options. They both work really well with small loads, and they are on demand units, so you can take a single draw, and finish the bowl later without wasting anything.

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      • artasart says: October 8, 2015 at 6:48 pm

        Hey Buzz,
        I am wondering about “…they are on demand units, so you can take a single draw, and finish the bowl later without wasting anything.” I have a Pax 2 and often only have one or two vape sessions a day, usually alone.I was hoping to just leave herb in the chamber through multiple sessions on different days (ie. until exhausting my chamber)?
        This is an incredibly well done site. I learned a lot that I needed to know. Also, you’re amazingly generous with your time–I’ve never seen a comment page like yours where the site creator takes the time required to be so responsive. Thank you!!

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        • Buzz Danklin says: October 19, 2015 at 1:51 am

          Hey thank you so much for the kind words. I’ve been slackin a little lately but I’m getting back into the flow of things :) Thanks for taking the time to read my site and let me know if you have any ideas/suggestions for me. Have a great day. Check out the Grasshopper or the Firefly for more on-demand units that will heat up in under 10 seconds rather than ~60 like with the Pax 2.

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  • Milt says: April 28, 2015 at 9:06 am

    Great site and great review. I have the first Pax and maintenance and cleaning are a pain. Looking forward to getting the Pax 2!

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  • TNO says: April 29, 2015 at 2:40 am

    love your reviews but now you got me thinking ? ok so starting off i never smoke from a vapor im more used to smoking in paper or cigars and i just pick up a pax today and now im thinking i should had got the pax 2 i mean i really dont have the extra80$ but seeing your reviews im thinking did i get the rite one i can still takeit back and get the pax2 i have not use it yet what would you do knowing that i never smoke out of a vapor should i just stay with the one or go for the pax2 thank you for taking the time to read my post and take the time to hit me back .

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 29, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      The largest difference is going to be in the and cleaning/maintenance. The Pax 1 needs fairly frequent maintenance to keep it running best, whereas the Pax 2 needs considerably less. The Pax 1 also needs to have the mouthpiece lubed whereas the Pax 2 does not need lube. Otherwise the Pax 2 is just a bit better in nearly every other area, such as size/weight/flavor/vapor density/battery life etc. In the end I definitely think the Pax 2 is worth it over the Pax 1. If you can still exchange it, I would. If you have to sell your Pax 1 and take a loss, its probably not worth it then.

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  • greg bankston says: May 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    just got through reading about the kvape micro dx. seems might be better than pax 2. any knowledge on this?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 26, 2015 at 1:49 pm

      The k-vape micro dx looks to be a re-branded China vape. You can find it cheaper under the brand ‘wulf mods sx’ but I would stay away, the re-branded Chinese vapes are not very high quality yet.

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  • DavId devries says: June 10, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    i just bought a new pax2 just wondering do I charge it with new mouth piece attached or off , does it matter?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 12, 2015 at 12:57 am

      It does not matter, I generally just leave mine on

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      • jenny says: June 18, 2015 at 2:48 pm

        I just got my Pax 2 and put it on the charger. There are no led lights on and it feels very warm. Is this normal?

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        • Buzz Danklin says: June 18, 2015 at 5:10 pm

          Initially I would say no. Where did you get it from?

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  • Johnny says: June 20, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Hi Buzz,

    Another excellent review as always! As I wait for the Grasshopper, I am torn between the Pax 2 and Alfa. Do you think the Alfa is better at conserving bud than the PAX 2? Thanks again man!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 25, 2015 at 2:49 am

      I think they are both pretty similar, however if you use the Pax Pusher from newvape, I believe the Pax2 is a bit more efficient than the Alfa

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  • Frost says: June 23, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    Having such a hard time choosing between firefly or pax 2. Don’t plan on carrying it too much, maybe a hit before g king to eat or work. Just me and the gf, fairly heavy users, Wil use mostly inside. Never owned a vape but been studying up and came down to these two. Firefly for the convection and glass, pax2 from reviews mostly.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 25, 2015 at 2:59 am

      I love my Firefly, but for 2 heavy users, it might be running low on battery more than you would like since the bowl only holds .15g at most. I would lean towards the Pax2, or the Crafty/Mighty. If you do decide to go with the Firefly consider the external battery/charger.

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  • Lisa Kazmier says: June 26, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    I’m new, also, but my issue is plastic. Even BFA free is not a guarantee or better than other materials. Seems to me the top of the Pax 2 involves plastic somewhere. Do you have a recommendation of one that’s entirely plastic free?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 26, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      There is very minimal plastic in the Pax2, a bit on the oven door, and then there is some high heat silicone for the mouthpiece. The Pax uses all high quality plastics rated well above the max temps the Pax2 will ever see. However if you are still looking to avoid plastic, I would look at the Firefly or the Grasshopper.

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  • Steve says: June 29, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Taking it skiing or mountain biking? Please warn me when you go so I can stay out of your way.

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  • Lorin Hollander says: July 16, 2015 at 6:30 am

    Hi . I own a Pax 2. On one or another of your very insightful video reviews you exhibited a small metal piece which you used to take up unused space ion the oven, and to pack down the material. What is this space taking device and where can i purchase one? You also mentioned bending an extra screen for packing down. Keep up the great work. Many thanks

    Lorin

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    • Buzz Danklin says: July 18, 2015 at 10:21 pm

      You can get the Pax 2 pusher from NewVape!

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  • DJ says: July 19, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    What is draw resistance?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: July 19, 2015 at 11:18 pm

      Hey Dj, draw resistance effects how freely you can take a pull through the device. If you have a lightly packed bowl then you get more air flow through the chamber or if you have a tightly packed full chamber then you might have to suck in a little harder to get good vapor production. The Crafty produces the best free flowing hits so you don’t have to take a huge breaths or suck super hard to get results.

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      • Peter D. says: February 23, 2016 at 11:24 pm

        NewVape now sells an oven lid replacement for Pax 1 & 2. The oven lid is vented – with tons of holes so more air gets in for better circulation and much less draw resistance even when fully packed. If you get the pusher device and the vented oven lid package, the oven lid comes with a screw through it that you can attach the push device to, so you can use them as one piece. Very convenient. They also sell a bottom screen replacement that is designed to let more airflow in than the OEM screen. I got one of their replacement screens and the vented oven lid and push device for my Pax2, and I no longer have any issues with draw resistance.

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  • Anonymous says: August 25, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    Hey, thanks for the great reviews. I have the ascent and thinking about upgrading to the PAX2. Do you think its worth it? How would you compare the cleaning of the two and the frequency required between them? I’ve broken several of the glass parts of the ascent during cleaning and getting a bit tired of it….

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    • Buzz Danklin says: August 27, 2015 at 10:24 am

      The Pax 2 is much easier to clean than the Ascent. There are quite a bit of parts with the Ascent. They made some solid improvements with the Pax 2 and as long as you run a pipe cleaner through the vapor path every so often you won’t have any problems. One thing you will notice between the Ascent and the Pax 2 would be that the Pax 2 has a bit more draw resistance. They both have about the same battery life which they both are really good. Have you looked into the Crafty?

      The Crafty might be a little more similar to the free flowing vapor path you’re used to. Battery life is definitely not the best (much better on the Pax 2) but it’s extremely easy to use and can be charged via USB. So you can pick up external battery packs off amazon for pretty cheap now (~$20) and they will charge the Crafty/Pax 2 from dead 3-4 times over.

      Thanks for the kind words and let me know if you have any more questions.

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  • Maple Beaver says: September 3, 2015 at 11:45 pm

    Hey man, I Just wanted to let you know that I think you’ve done a FANTASTIC job with your site (could do with updates here and there tho). It’s an absolute gold mine of information for people, especially the rookies just getting into the vaping game, such as myself.

    I had been wanting to try vaporizing ever since I heard about it, and finally got the chance to try it out in late spring and got instantly hooked! For me, vaporizing diminishes the less desirable effects associated with combustion and the taste is INFINITELY better! So i set out to find myself a vaporizer… Your site came up and boy am I glad it did! It provided honest and thorough reviews on the main contenders in the vaping market and was an excellent introduction into the vaping culture. Idk about the masses, but when I’m shopping for something a bit pricey that I really want (ie laptop, vape, etc.) I totally geek out and learn as much as I can beforehand in order to make an informed purchase and your website was right on the money!

    I ended up looking at the Crafty, Pax 2 and the Grasshopper and came upon a great deal for a Pax 2 that I simply couldn’t pass up ($250 in box with titanium screen and pusher) and I’m very happy with my purchase. The thing has me vaping recreationally multiple times a week, which never used to be the case with joints, and there’s nothing of note that I’ve encountered that wasn’t mentionned in your review, which attests to your thoroughness.

    This recent increase in consumption has prompted me to acquire a 4pc grinder to collect kief, as it gets pretty much wasted in my 2pc, and while I’m happy with the perfomance of my genuine Sharpstone grinder (performs outstandingly for the price), I find it doesn’t grind finely enough for vaping and was really eyeing up the MFLB finishing grinder. Seems it doesn’t have any true competition….?

    I’m thinking of getting a Grasshopper to complement my Pax 2 as well, cause as much as I love the thing, I find the draws are quite restricted and the heat up time isn’t ideal for quick, impromptu hits and doesn’t cater all that well to my buddies who aren’t used to vaping as there is more of a learning curve associated with the Pax 2 than other vapes. I figure the Grasshopper would fit the bill perfectly in that regard, don’t you think?

    Keep up the fantastic work ;)

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    • Buzz Danklin says: September 6, 2015 at 12:45 pm

      Hey Maple Beaver :)

      Thanks so much for the kind words and I agree that I could definitely keep the site updated more but I tend to vape quite a bit of herb and it makes things difficult :) I think that you will definitely like the Grasshopper. Much less draw resistance and a much faster heat up time.

      It’s funny, my CloudEVO just cracked on the bamboo part (probably because I leave it on 24/7/365) but I’ve been using the Grasshopper with the EVO hydrotube and it’s just as good I feel like. Probably not as dense as the EVO but pretty damn close. Not too mention its a pen. So yea. I love the Grasshopper and I think you will too.

      Thanks again for the kind words and I’ll work on keeping the site a little more updated. Take care man!

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  • Ben B says: December 1, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Hey Buzz, first off your site and reviews are amazing and I feel so much better making an investment in a higher end vape after watching them.

    I first came to review of the Ascent but after watching a bunch I think you’ve swayed me toward the Pax2 (although there is about ~100 price difference now with current deals). Either would be my first real vape (I bought a shitty Palm 2.0 which barely produces any vapor. While I do a bit of session smoking at home, I’d love to be vaping while snowboarding and hiking, so the size/portability of the Pax2 is appealing.

    What’s been your experience with the battery life in cold weather? I know my iphone battery always dies when I’m on the slopes.

    I’ve watched most of your reviews, but if there’s another vape you think I should look at I’d love to hear it.
    Things I care about most: Size/portability, battery life, vapor production, reasonable conservation.

    Thanks!

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    • Ben B says: December 1, 2015 at 5:29 pm

      Oh, and I second the previous question about whether it works with the Pax2 to spread one bowl over several personal sessions, or whether each session will waste a fair amount.

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      • Buzz Danklin says: December 1, 2015 at 5:46 pm

        Let it heat up in your pocket, take a draw or two then turn it off and continue to draw as the unit cools down. This way you can use a full bowl but session it out over the day.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: December 1, 2015 at 5:45 pm

      I think your best bet is going to be the Pax 2. I’ve used it on multiple boarding trips and the Pax 2 has lasted they day with two people tokin on it. It does waste some herb during the heat up cool down process but what I like to do is just turn it on, put it back in pocket, wait for it to heat up, take a few draws, turn it off and continue to draw while it cools down.

      So you can still be semi-efficient but nowhere near the Grasshopper. It just sucks that they are taking 60-80 days to ship right now. I’ll be using the Grasshopper quite a bit this season. Near instant heat up time, works easily with varying load sizes, plus replaceable batteries. The temp issues won’t be a problem up on the slopes, in fact it will warm up my hands in the process (so does the Pax 2).

      As long as you use the method I explained above with the Pax 2, I would say you could get by using one bowl 3-4 different times with one person while going up the lift. Both are very portable.

      So stoked for the season! We open up here in Whitefish on Saturday and I literally am just sitting watching skiing/snowboarding videos all day. I had my helmet/goggles on yesterday for a good portion of the day lol. Check me out on instagram for pics/videos this season! #prayforsnow #winteriscoming

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  • Alex says: December 9, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Did you try the new screen 3 d ?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: December 9, 2015 at 11:29 am

      I have used the newvape screen and the pusher. I did not notice a huge difference in the screen, but I definitely think the Pax Pusher is really great for smaller loads.

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      • Dustin Winkler says: March 25, 2016 at 7:16 pm

        Yep i got the pusher too it definetely works better when u dont load as much. I too dont notice any difference with the different screens.

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  • J says: December 22, 2015 at 12:40 am

    This is my first time getting a vaporizer… would you recommend the firefly, grasshopper, or the pax 2? I read a few reviews on this site and I am big on the taste so I want to know how is the taste on the pax 2 or would you recommend something different. Thanks

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    • Buzz Danklin says: December 22, 2015 at 2:23 pm

      The Pax 2 has some of the best tasting vapor from a conduction vaporizer, however convection units can have a bit better flavor. If flavor is the most important aspect, I would go for the Crafty/Grasshopper/Firefly, the Crafty if you want ease of use, the Firefly if you want the very best flavor and are willing to learn/practice a bit of technique, and the Grasshopper if you want the most portable convection unit, but with the Hopper you have to wait a few months.

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  • Jim says: December 26, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    Please put me on your mailing list

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    • Buzz Danklin says: January 14, 2016 at 9:12 am

      Hey Jim! Thanks for checking out my site. I can’t add you manually because you’ll have to approve the subscription but you can go to my contact page and sign up using the form on the right hand side.

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  • Jeff Anderson says: January 12, 2016 at 10:53 am

    Is Isopropylalcohol 99,9% good for clean the vape?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: January 14, 2016 at 8:49 am

      Yes, you can use lower amount of iso as well but 90%+ is best.

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  • Andre says: January 16, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    Like your review, just bought the Pax2 but have not used it yet. I am an ocasional smoker but I have read that after using the Pax2 it leaves a bad residual smell from what ever you utilize it for which concerns me a bit. I want to be more incognito. Your thoughts

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    • Buzz Danklin says: January 20, 2016 at 5:28 pm

      Pick up a small carrying case or a smell proof case. Something that will either zip shut or cap the ends to prevent the smell. They are relatively cheap and can be found on ebay, amazon and maybe vapeworld has them now.

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      • Dustin Winkler says: March 25, 2016 at 7:12 pm

        You can buy end caps for your pax 1 and pax 2 units at delta 3d studios or new vape i cant remember where i ordered them through. There real cheap like $4 for the pair.

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    • Maria says: May 10, 2016 at 3:51 am

      Freezer ziplock bags and tiny storage containers (locknlock, sistema, Tupperware, etc…) work just as well. Have a quick look in your kitchen and you won’t have to buy anything. ;)

      Buzz, I thoroughly appreciate your website. You’ve taught me a lot. I’m new to vaping and was wondering if you can do a how-to video on how to use the pax 2. I’ve been watching a lot of videos and they seem to be getting way more vapor than I do but none of them go into any detail and they mention long draws, do sips, do a fine grind and/or AVB (just like I’ve seen on this thread) like its suppose to mean something to a newbie like me. Lol For someone who never smoked anything (apart from some herb a few months back… Which tasted AWFUL but felt so good that I learned how to bake brownies, which took too much time and effort, and then decided to spend nearly $300 on a vape so I could keep at it. Hahaha) and is new to vaping, it’s all just gibberish to me. It would be awesome if you could do a how-to video that shows (in detail) how you’re suppose to draw, how tightly to pack the oven, how fine to grind the herb and any other tips and tricks you might have on how to use the pax 2 efficiently. I am 100% sure that I’m doing something wrong since I’m not getting much vapor and I am not getting as strong a sensation as I did when I smoked it. Help!

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      • Buzz Danklin says: May 18, 2016 at 3:12 pm

        Like you mentioned the three keys to the Pax2 are fine grind, tight pack, and slow draws. I prefer to grind the herb as fine as your grinder will get it, I then pack the oven all the way and push it down a bit, you don’t need to really jam hard or anything, but definitely push it in, don’t just let it fall into the oven. Then turn the unit on, let it heat up, and take slow draws, the longer the draw the more vapor you will get. It is also worth noting in the youtube videos usually everyone has lights for filming, and when you blow a cloud of vapor directly into the beams of light it shows up easier, you can try something like exhaling a cloud through a flashlight beam to see the effect. I will definitely consider doing a Pax 2 usage video, but I have a few more review videos I am working on at the moment. As far as the sensation, you will notice the effects from vaporizing come on a bit slower, more like a joint rather than a bong.

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  • Aariah Nash says: February 13, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    Hey author, you forgot to mention the little “minigames” on this device. I bought my Pax 2 a couple weeks ago and so far its been nothing short of AMAZING. very convenient and highly admired by my friends. Anyway back to the “easter eggs”. On the Pax there is a light up four leafed emblem you will notice that the lights change colors when you rotate the Pax three times away from you. If you keep rotating in three rotation cycles it’ll rotate through the various game modes (i believe there’s 7). BUT THE MAIN THING that this post is about is the “STEALTH MODE” its freaking amazing. This dims the light on the emblem making it almost impossible to see that its an electronic thing at all it could look like a case for someones glasses or something. EXTREMELY CONVENIENT is you want to vaporize weed as you walk through the town. VERY NICE feature that you forgot to mention, adds very well to the sneaky factor that you can achieve with the PAX 2.

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  • Dean says: February 27, 2016 at 7:10 am

    Hi!

    Best vape blog..congrats you are doing a great job.
    I have a question..if you could kindly respond.
    I bought crafty some months ago…I have to say it’s just amazing….previously I had an arizer solo…no competition against crafty.
    I’m looking forward to get pax 2 for portable reasons.
    Could you rate your top 5 portable vaporizers…taking into account vape quality and vape coolness (cool/cold)
    I mean I liked my arizer solo but vape was too warm, compared with the cool and smooth vape of the crafty it has nothing to do.
    I’m wondering how cool pax 2 vapor is.

    Thx.
    Regards,
    Dean

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    • Buzz Danklin says: February 29, 2016 at 4:21 pm

      Hey Dean, I appreciate the compliment. If I had to rate my top portables based on vapor quality/coolness I would say #1 Firefly, #2 Firefly 2 (slightly shorter vapor path), #3 Mighty, #4 Crafty (slightly smaller cooling unit)

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  • OldCreepy says: March 12, 2016 at 1:17 am

    I think I might be asking one hell of a stupid question but I’m buzzed and not in the caring mood. I purchased a Vaporfi Orbit 2 weeks ago (100$) it was my first dry vape. Tip has broke 2x but that’s not why I’m here. Shortly after realizing that being a heavy smoker would wear my vape down faster than being heavy on say my monkey pipe or ice catcher. I started my search for fast easy durable and found the GRASSSSSSGOD! The Ti GrassHopper. I ordered it that day with 5 extra batt and the Nitcore charger. Stupid me forgot I would still be stuck with have ass Orbit until GH ships from MARS. I bought a Pax 2 today on there site and now I really REALLY need to know that I will be getting more and saving more with my Pax than with the Orbit. Clouds,taste,and the amount of technic needed to make pax 2 work vs the orbit is my question. I had to learn my way into vaping with this Orbit since the screen clogs fast and you can’t pull hard. (Also fine grind wasn’t known at the time) I use my 4 piece Aerospaced grinder and it has been ok. I know slow is best but can you pull normal like you would a pipe with fresh screen put in and still get results? Hope this isn’t filled with typos cause I’m to zapped to check Thanks for any info

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2016 at 10:42 am

      Hey man welcome to the vape community! The Pax 2 works best with a fine grind. I’m talking like turn the grinder upside down and grind for a bit before letting it fall into the catch. It also works best with a full pack but the new Pax 2 works just fine with varying load sizes meaning you can pack like .1 or .2 depending on how long you want the session to be if you use the newvape pusher. The main differences between the Pax 2 and the Grasshopper would be that the Pax 2 is a session vaporizer meaning that once you start a session, it’s best to finish the entire bowl to be the most efficient. With the Grasshopper, you can click it on, take a couple puffs, and then throw it back in your pocket for later.

      The Pax 2 does have some draw resistance and I recommend that you slow down the draw until you barely feel any resistance. Just a slow steady draw and you’ll feel it. It’s just different to get used to, it’s not like ripping a pipe or bubbler, but overall it’s not bad.

      Super excited for you to get that GH!! You’re going to love the Pax 2 and the GH. Let me know if you have any more questions man and thanks for checking out my site.

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  • OldCreepy says: March 12, 2016 at 1:21 am

    I’m asking this about Pax 2 because I know for sure my GH will arrive some time (2075ish) and it is all I need! The whole pull hard as you want is my kind of vape. Also the 1:30 vid of them doing a chamber burn into a glass jar makes my mouth water lol.

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  • Ron Kauffman says: March 19, 2016 at 10:50 am

    My greed overruled intuition and I bought a Pax 2 on line from V4Therapy for $179, not $279. The first red flag came when the unit did not turn off automatically at around 3 minutes. After becoming idle, it ‘s stayed on for 4 to 13 minutes and longer (not timed). It has also shut off after less than 3 minutes. How’s that for erratic? Everything else seemed to work properly. For awhile.
    After less than two weeks use, the heating, ready, and cooling lights still work but I’m not getting any vapor no matter how hard or long I draw. Nada. I doesn’t feel like it’s heating as the purple light indicates. I contacted V4Therapy via e-mail many days ago but they haven’t responded (ha and duh!). How many red flags does it take to assume I’ve been ripped off? Apparently I’ve gotten a $179 lesson. I can only hope it’s made me wiser, along with more cautious and less greedy. What do you think, Buzz Man?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 19, 2016 at 11:28 am

      It sounds to me like you got a knockoff unfortunately. I would contact Paxvapor, and they can verify if it is authentic or not.

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  • Dustin Winkler says: March 25, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    Bought a pax 2 about 3 weeks ago never have ever usef a vaporizer in my life . Been smoking for 18 years i smoke about 2.5 grams a day through it. Its the best device ive ever purchased for smoking weed! I just cant go back to my bong or pipe ive tried , it just doesnt compare. Cant wait to pick up a home unit. Gotta say to the inventors of the pax 2 = great invention you guys rock!

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  • Dustin Winkler says: March 25, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    Another thing about the pax 2 the charger it comes with is shitty. Its the only downfall of the unit. Everything else is great. If u buy a pax 2 i would get a better charger i ordered one through delta 3d studios just google it. And that was my only issue with this unit but not a big deal , i ordered a good charger for like $15 i think.

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  • Vape Noob says: April 20, 2016 at 1:32 am

    Thanks for the great reviews! You’re really thorough and your videos have a good pace. I need advice: I am stuck between buying the Pax 2 and the Haze v3. Concealment is not a huge issue. Since their price is basically the same, which one would you recommend? Thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 20, 2016 at 11:18 am

      Depends on if you want to use concentrates or not. If you think you will be using concentrates I would go with the Haze v3. The Haze v3 also has less draw resistance but overall more cleaning, more parts, and not as easy to conceal/pocket out on the go. They both heat up about the same and produce about the same vapor quality. 10 year warranties on both.

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      • Vape Noob says: April 21, 2016 at 12:17 am

        Thanks a lot for the info! I think I will go with the Pax 2.

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  • Maria says: May 10, 2016 at 3:58 am

    This is a repost since I’m not sure I will be able to find the first one. If you can reply to this one, that would be great.

    Buzz, I thoroughly appreciate your website. You’ve taught me a lot. I’m new to vaping and was wondering if you can do a how-to video on how to use the pax 2. I’ve been watching a lot of videos and they seem to be getting way more vapor than I do but none of them go into any detail and they mention long draws, do sips, do a fine grind and/or AVB (just like I’ve seen on this thread) like its suppose to mean something to a newbie like me. Lol For someone who never smoked anything (apart from some herb a few months back… Which tasted AWFUL but felt so good that I learned how to bake brownies, which took too much time and effort, and then decided to spend nearly $300 on a vape so I could keep at it. Hahaha) and is new to vaping, it’s all just gibberish to me. It would be awesome if you could do a how-to video that shows (in detail) how you’re suppose to draw, how tightly to pack the oven, how fine to grind the herb and any other tips and tricks you might have on how to use the pax 2 efficiently. I am 100% sure that I’m doing something wrong since I’m not getting much vapor and I am not getting as strong a sensation as I did when I smoked it but I have no idea what I’m doing wrong. Please help…

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 30, 2016 at 12:24 pm

      Hey Maria, this is a great idea and I’m getting something together soon. Might be a couple weeks though. I’m, wrapping up the Mighty review and then a How-To with the FF2. Maybe I can just do something informal for my vimeo channel. I’ll shoot you an email if I do. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for reading my site!

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  • Andew says: June 5, 2016 at 6:46 am

    would you rather the pax 2 or the grasshopper ??

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 5, 2016 at 11:27 am

      Personally I would go with the Grasshopper but what do YOU want to go with? Do you like longer sessions or do you want something on demand and quick? The Grasshopper also has a lot less draw resistance. Downside is you probably won’t see it for 6 months. You can order the Pax 2 and have it in less than 5 days.

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  • Mo Teknik says: September 8, 2016 at 10:24 am

    I’m an old smoker of some 30 yrs now. Weaned myself off cigarettes but until the Pax came out I was sucker for spliffs.
    I love my Pax2, gives me the best THC hit without the groggy slowness of the other THC analogues which need a higher temp or even combustion to activate. I use setting 2, sometimes 3 but never 4.
    I pack it on my morning dog walk, sets me up for the rest of the morning.
    I always give it a mix and a re-burn, once or maybe twice. Second burn is best I think but that depend on your product.
    The small and neat design is spot on, I would be lost without it now, everything else is to obtrusive.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: September 8, 2016 at 10:46 am

      Great review and tips! Perfect for the morning walk.

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  • Richard Ford says: November 11, 2016 at 4:58 am

    Hey man,

    Thank you for the great review. I was planning on grabbing a pax 2. Is this unit decent for heating up for a short session and then cooling down again without burning too much extra herb? I go in for long sessions at home but through the day I like to have a 6-8 draw session. Is that doable without cooking off too much extra herb?

    Cheers

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    • Buzz Danklin says: November 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm

      You’ll want to pick up the half-pack lid so you can load a smaller bowl. The Pax 2 works best when you vape the entire bowl in one session. So if you can shrink the chamber size and use less herb, I think that would work fine. Ideally, you want a convection vaporizer for that purpose. Something like the Firefly 2, Sticky Brick JR (butane), or the Grasshopper works best when you’re trying to split bowls into multiple sessions. 6-8 draws is still a pretty decent session so I think you’ll be fine with the Pax 2. The Pax 3 would be the ultimate choice because of the 15-second heat up time but still need to load a smaller amount and try to vape the entire chamber.

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  • Sean says: December 2, 2016 at 10:32 am

    great review. mine came with an elastic band on the cord for the charger,works perfect for the battery. best bday present ever.thanks Buzz

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    • Buzz Danklin says: December 2, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      Thanks Sean! I didn’t know about the elastic band, that is clutch! Happy belated birthday!

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  • A says: April 7, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    Just be aware that the Pax company has no customer service and if you have a problem do not expect help with your problem. My Pax started good then developed problems within a couple of months. The customer service is non existent, weeks to reply and then only with hopeless nonsense, next reply weeks later more nonsense. Better off talking to the cat!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 8, 2017 at 10:53 am

      Crappy! They are usually very good about customer support. Did you end up getting help with your Pax? Can I help in any way?

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  • harlan mclaughlin says: May 7, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    hi buzz,
    just got a pax 2 and wonder if it will hurt the battery if i leave it on the charger overnight…

    thanks,
    harlan

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 11, 2017 at 9:35 am

      Nah it’s fine. I think best practice is to remove it from the charger when it’s fully charged but it won’t hurt it.

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