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Firefly 2 Vaporizer Review


Firefly 2 Vaporizer Review [4K Video] ~13:52

The Firefly 2 is the second iteration of the on demand dynamic convection portable vaporizer from Firefly Vapor. A company founded in San Francisco back in 2012. While I love how the original unit heated up almost instantly, they have made the FF2 heat up even quicker, now in as little as 3-5 seconds. The original unit was fairly low maintenance, but the new unit has some of the lowest upkeep of any of the portables I own at this point. I am also glad to report that my biggest complaints about the original unit like the battery life and the size & weight have all been addressed.

firefly 2 vs firefly 1 comparison

This Firefly 2 vaporizer review will give a rundown of the features, discuss some of the changes from the original unit, go over how to use the unit including some of the tips, and then talk about the pros and cons of the unit.

Like the original unit, this unit is perfect for someone who is looking for premium vapor quality with amazing and smooth flavor. The FF2 has nearly instant on demand heat up so the unit works great for people who like a really quick session and for people that like to split a bowl into multiple different sessions efficiently without wasting their herbs.

The Firefly 2 retails for $329 and comes with a two-year warranty. I recommend getting it directly from TheFirefly or VapeWorld.

Size, Portability, and Discreetness – The Firefly 2 is 33% smaller and 55% lighter than the original Firefly. The unit is now very similar in size and weight to the to the Crafty and the Air vaporizers thanks to them switching from a stainless steel body to a magnesium alloy body. While the FF2 is not the most discreet unit at first glance, its near instant heat up for quick sessions and minimal smell compared to the average portable vaporizer makes it pretty easy to use on the down-low.

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Accessories – The Firefly comes with two easily swappable batteries which is really cool since very few vapes come with more than a single battery. The unit also comes with a cleaning kit that includes two plastic toothpick/sword tools, and a great multi sided brush, and a couple isopropyl alcohol wipes. The unit also comes with a usb charging dock, and concentrate pads

firefly 2 and firefly 1 mouthpiece

Heater and Vapor Path – The Firefly 2 uses a 50 watt heater and a borosilicate glass bowl. The Firefly has 6 different heat settings, 5 settings for dry herbs, and one setting for concentrates. The FF2 will reach 400F (204C) in 3 seconds and 420F (215C) in 5 seconds. Since the glass bowl transfers minimal heat, I can place my finger in the bowl (touching the glass side and the metal bottom), set it to concentrate temp (500F or 260C) and hold the trigger down for nearly 10 seconds before my finger starts to get hot, and only on the bottom.

This is why this unit is so efficient at breaking a single bowl into multiple sessions, it only heats the herbs while you are hitting it. The Firefly2 has a 55 hole pattern in the bottom of the bowl and larger air intakes compared to the original unit for increased airflow. Like the original unit the Firefly 2 faintly glows when it first ramps up to temp which looks pretty cool, when you wan’t to use it discreetly in the dark its quite easy to cover the glow with your hand.

firefly 1 and firefly 2 chamber comparison

Apple and Android Application – The Firefly 2 uses an application available for both Apple and Android to connect to the Firefly 2 via Bluetooth. You can change the temperatures, check battery life, and change settings on the unit. The Firefly 2 has 5 temperature settings for dry herb 340, 360, 380, 400, 420 Fahrenheit (171, 182, 193, 204, 215 Celcius) and one setting for concentrates 500F or 260C. Firefly Vapor has said having the application will allow them to add new features in the future.

Cleaning and Maintenance – The Firefly 2 is actually one of the easiest vapes I have to clean, and it can go long intervals in-between cleanings without any performance loss, although you will get some buildup on the window. There is no screen in the bowl to replace or clean, you basically just take an isopropyl alcohol wipe or a paper towel with some isopropyl alcohol on it and wipe out the bowl, then wipe down the vapor path on both the body and the lid and you are done.

Altogether I am usually done cleaning in under a minute. When I was testing how long the unit could go in-between any cleaning before I noticed any performance degradation I got to 26 bowls before the buildup on the lid caused the unit to not fully seal, I was able to use my fingernail to scrape around the bowl and get it to seal after just a few seconds and then it was working perfect again.

firefly 2 thickness and heat buttons

Battery – The battery life on the original Firefly was definitely the biggest drawback. Not only did the FF1 have the shortest battery life per charge, but it also had manufacturing quality problems which caused a percentage of the batteries to degrade faster than they should have. With the new Firefly 2 they have drastically improved heating efficiency and Firefly Vapor says they have the improved battery life by over 100%. In my testing, I was trying to take every draw to the max length (30 seconds), and I tested at 420f to keep a consistent setup.

I have been getting 6 bowls per charge for dry herb, and each bowl is usually getting 6-8 draws for a total of about 35-45 ~25-30 second draws . With concentrates the battery life is reduced a bit. Overall, I get a good amount of bowls per charge, and the unit comes with 2 easily swappable batteries so I’m quite happy with the battery situation. The icing on the cake is that the batteries charge in roughly 45-50 minutes, they hit 80% charge in the first 20 minutes, and they can be charged in the original Firefly external charger.

Summary – Over the last month of testing I have really grown to love this vaporizer, my favorite parts about the unit are the amazing flavor and cool vapor, and that it’s just really enjoyable to use and efficient with my herbs. It requires minimal technique/practice to get the best results and it requires almost no cleaning or maintenance.

For people who like to use concentrates as well as dry herbs, this has become my favorite unit for concentrates, the 500F concentrate temp not only gives amazing flavor but very potent draws. My biggest complaint, which is still pretty minor is that it needs stirred or mixed up for the absolute best results and most even AVB. If you don’t pack it too tight you can generally tap the bowl against your hand to mix/stir it up.

If you are interested in the Firefly 2 you can pre-order it directly from FireflyVapor or pick it up from VapeWorld. Sometimes VapeWorld will run a sale or throw in a gift so it’s best to just check out both places and weigh your options. Thank you for checking out my Firefly 2 vape review and if you have any questions comments or concerns please leave them below.

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9.3
Overall Score
Firefly 2 Vaporizer Review

The smoothest and best tasting vapor quality and currently my favorite dry herb vaporizer for concentrates. Heats up in as little 5 seconds with very little cleaning and maintenance.

98 Comments

  • Cannamelier says: March 1, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Nice write up! I haven’t had it in my hands yet!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 1, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      Thanks man, hopefully you get one soon! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

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      • Chris says: September 27, 2016 at 11:53 am

        I have had the firefly 2 now for a month, don’t waste your money. It is too much work, you must stir the herb every hit because of uneven cooking. Then having to thoroughly clean it with alcohol every bowlful, the mouth piece clogs with fine particles then if you’re lucky you might get a hit. Watch out for the death hit which fry’s your throat, occasionally it over heats and over cooks the herd and fry’s the herb. And if you have weak lungs forget it this thing is difficult to pull the air through definitely needing larger holes to get more air through it. And then the battery goes dead you can’t use it because the pipe is needed to charge it. Terrible design the charging cradle should have been designed to be able to charge the batteries separately. And if you’re a clean person, forget it this thing is very messy constantly spilling over finding burnt herb everywhere. Sorry, this is a lot of money for a pipe with this many issue’s.

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  • Sally says: March 1, 2016 at 5:55 pm

    I love you

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  • Isaac says: March 1, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    How would you compare it to the grasshopper?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 1, 2016 at 11:46 pm

      Compared to the Grasshopper it has tastier, smoother, and overall more enjoyable vapor, but it’s larger, heavier, and more expensive. I really love both vapes.

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  • Gampo says: March 2, 2016 at 9:12 am

    Howdy Buzz Danklin!

    First of all, awesome review! Definitely appreciate all the time and effort you’ve put into the process– the comparison pics are also pretty rad!

    Only one thing is missing that I think a lot of people would probably appreciate (maybe add it to your article on the site?) and that’s a direct comparison of it to the crafty and pax 2, which are obviously the (previously?) best portable vape (and the Mighty, yeah), and the best selling/more popular portable vape.

    My roommate owns a crafty and I have a volcano, so I do have that benchmark for quality expectations. However after seeing his crafty already needing to be warrantied, I was attracted to the true portability and discreteness of the pax2– that is I could walk down the street even during broad daylight and enjoy the vape. Could you expand a bit on its quality as a direct comparison to the crafty and the pax 2, and for that matter, the crafty’s vapor quality?

    I also plan on vaping solo and in groups about equally, so that’s definitely something to consider. A repack or two never hurt anyone, that’s for sure, but how have you felt about using the Firefly 2 in groups? I feel like it’s insane efficiency via the pure convection heating may actually allow it to work better in group since the herb is only being heated when the user wants it to be, but this is something I obviously can only speculate haha.

    And one last thing! How would you say the AVB quality is? I know with the crafty and the Mighty, we’ve been able to enjoy really even, really high AVB quality which we can then combust, re-vape, or even use in edibles. How would you rate the Firefly 2 in this department?

    Thanks so much, take it easy brotha!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 13, 2016 at 10:26 pm

      I appreciate the kind words and I apologize for letting this comment slip through the cracks without a reply for a while.

      I intentionally did not compare the units too heavily to the Crafty/Mighty and the Pax 2 because I planned to write some full comparison articles and videos between the units, however I am unfortunately behind and have not gotten them out.

      I cannot compare the reliability of the FF2 to the Pax2 and the Crafty/Mighty since it is so new, but you will get the best flavor, and the smoothest and coolest vapor from the Firefly 2, followed by the Crafty/Mighty followed by the Pax 2. If you care a lot about overall vapor quality and especially flavor then you will really appreciate the Firefly 2 even after coming from some of my very favorite units (Volcano and Crafty). As far as reliability goes, the Crafty seems to be about average or slightly under, the Mighty is about average or slightly over, and the Pax 2 is probably the most reliable portable vape.

      The Firefly 2 is a pretty fast extracting vape so it is a bit different in groups than the Crafty/Mighty because you can generally finish a bowl in 4-8 draws with the Firefly 2, so you will definitely be repacking with more than a couple people. The Pax 2 does even better than the Crafty/Mighty in groups because the bowl is larger, and it doesn’t extract the herbs as quick so you can just keep passing it around easily. On the flip side, the Firefly 2 does the best for solo use, the Crafty/Mighty are in the middle and the Pax 2 is the worst of those units for solo use (although if you pick up a newvape paxpusher it works well solo)

      As far as AVB goes, the Volcano and the Crafty/Mighty basically set the standard for completely even AVB, although the AVB tends to be weak since its so thoroughly extracted. With the Firefly 2 the AVB will not be quite as even, parts of it will be a bit darker, and parts of it will be a bit lighter. Like the Volcano and Crafty the AVB is pretty thoroughly extracted so it won’t be terribly potent for edibles.

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  • Rob Brub says: March 4, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    Great review, I need to get one of these.

    I’m with Gampo; a comparison against the crafty would be great! Also nice comparison pic, helped me visialize the size better.

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  • Brian says: March 7, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Hey Buzz.

    Thanks for the review. Can you give the physical dimensions of the unit? I have one on order and am looking for something to carry / protect it.

    Thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2016 at 10:44 am

      Hey Brian, I got 5.1 inches tall, 1.4 inches wide by .96 inches deep. That’s standing the unit on the mouthpiece.

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  • Niko Kush says: March 10, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Can you compare this unit to Haze v3?
    I’m stuck on the fence between the two.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 19, 2016 at 11:40 am

      The largest difference is that the Haze V3 is a conduction session unit (even the ‘convection’ screens are still mostly conduction) So with the Haze you will heat up your bowl, and its best to finish it all at once. Since the Firefly 2 is convection and on demand you will get better flavor, and you can also break a bowl into multiple sessions. So I could load it, take 2 rips, then set it down for 15 minutes, take another rip, set it down for a day, and then finally finish the bowl. I prefer the Firefly 2 in basically every aspect, except for the Haze has a longer warranty, and the Haze requires no technique, the Firefly 2 will take a bit of technique/practice at first to get the very best results.

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  • Willow says: March 12, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    Just wondering if this would be the best option for someone who tends to take a toke off the pipe once in a while over the course of a day. I usually grind my herbs fine and just place a small amount in the bowl for a one hitter. I’d like to invest in a vaporizer that is good for this type of usage. The Firefly 2 seems like a good option. Any other suggestions or vapes I should be looking at that would suit this usage style well?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 19, 2016 at 11:36 am

      The Firefly 2 is my favorite vape for this type of usage. You can break a single bowl into multiple sessions throughout the day without wasting any of it during heat-ups and cool-downs like you do with most other units. The FF2 also does a great job of preserving flavor when using the same bowl for multiple sessions, so when you come back for your second or third session it will still taste good and be enjoyable.

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      • Willow says: June 3, 2016 at 10:52 pm

        Thanks Buzz, as a new vape user I’m not sure I’m doing it right. Any suggestions on technique? It seems pretty straight forward but the experience is similar to the experience I had years ago where it wasn’t that great and I just stuck with the pipe. I don’t get any clouds, occasionally a light mist. I get the flavor but it doesn’t seem to be getting the job done. Suggestions?

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    • MauiMedicine says: June 4, 2016 at 1:44 am

      If you go with the FF2, be careful not to grind up flowers too fine. It can make its way out of the bowl and along the airway. The directions state to break it up with your fingers and I paid the price for missing that info. I use my FF2 mostly for concentrates, and I use a plenty for flowers, but the flavor from the FF2 is better than the plenty when using flowers.

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  • Nevets says: March 15, 2016 at 3:02 am

    Nice review, I really like the FireFly 2 but i’m wondering about its draw resistance.
    I prefer vapes without too much draw resistance and was wondering whether the firefly 2’s was bothersome like the original PAX was for me

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 19, 2016 at 11:33 am

      The draw resistance on the FF2 is a bit interesting, if you draw slow is has minimal resistance, but as you pull faster it starts to give you resistance. So I personally just take longer slow draws, and I have no problems with the resistance. It has less draw resistance than the first Firefly, as well as the Pax, but it definitely still has resistance if you try to pull hard.

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      • Hendocat says: April 11, 2016 at 12:59 am

        It sounds similar to the Magic Flight Launch Box in that regard. Would that be a similar comparison? Cheers!

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        • Buzz Danklin says: April 13, 2016 at 9:50 pm

          You are correct, it is sort of similar, however the Firefly 2 is larger, heavier and more expensive but it is improved in basically every other way. The largest difference is that the FF2 limits the maximum temperature to whatever the app is set at (340f-420f or 171c-215c), so the heating is much more consistent than the MFLB, you just hold down the button the whole time without worry of overcooking. The vapor flavor, smoothness, and temperature are all basically as good as it gets on the Firefly 2.

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  • roberta says: March 25, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    does the different temperature setting only work if you have the app? What temp settings does it have without the app? Thank you for all your reviews you are very thorough!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2016 at 10:36 am

      You do need the app to change temperature settings. Unfortunately I do not remember what the starting temp was on when I first got it. I will try to find out and report back

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  • Gaus says: March 30, 2016 at 2:18 am

    Hey Buzz

    Love your reviews, the one thing i am trying to find a portable vape with the coolest vapour and a direct path from herb to mouth.
    As i have a medical condition that has given me a very sensitive throat, all the other features of FF2 tick my requirements.
    Cheers
    Gaus

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    • Buzz Danklin says: March 31, 2016 at 10:33 am

      I think the FF2 is the perfect vape. Very little draw resistance and the flavor/vapor is sooo smooth and cool. I would also check out the Crafty but the battery is NOT quite as good as the new FF2. The reason I suggest the Crafty is because it’s one of the most free flowing vaporizers currently on the market and it also offers VERY cool and smooth vapor. The difference is that the FF2 can stop in between a session and save those herbs in the chamber for later whereas with the Crafty, once you start a session, you’re usually going to want to finish it for best efficiency.

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  • Joe says: April 1, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    Please reply Buzz I need help making this decision! I love your reviews but I am torn between the crafty, the plenty, and the firefly v2. The qualities I am looking for is something I can pick up and use here and there and not feel obligated to finish it it, something that is easy on my throat and heated in the healthiest way, something that has a lot of flavor and is easy to use. Which do you think of the three would be the best? I would like your opinion on this matter. It would be primarily used for dry herb.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 1, 2016 at 6:11 pm

      Hey Joe,
      The Plenty is not the best vape for vaping partial bowls, and while I do really enjoy using the Plenty, it is an herb-hog. Between the Crafty and the FF2, the Crafty is going to be a bit easier to use, but like the Plenty it is also best to just finish the bowl in a single session. The Firefly 2 is everything you are looking for except it does require a slight bit of technique and practice, but it works amazing for splitting a bowl into multiple sessions, and it has very smooth and tasty vapor. The Firefly 2 also comes with 2 batteries and they are replaceable which is big advantage over the Crafty. If you do ever happen to use concentrates, the Firefly2 also happens to be the best in that situation as well.

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      • Joe says: April 3, 2016 at 1:16 pm

        Thank you so much for your reply. The firefly V2 it is!

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  • Joe says: April 3, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Oh I doubt you have any but do you have a promo code or anything I can use when preordering it to get it cheaper? Figured I would see if they gave you one for marketing purposes.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 24, 2016 at 7:31 pm

      There are no promo codes yet, but I will definitely post them if/when I ever find any!

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  • Ravi says: April 4, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Hey. I really appreciate your reviews and dig your site. I’m torn between getting the mighty or now the firefly 2. any thoughts on which you would lean more towards?

    Thanks so much

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 5, 2016 at 3:52 pm

      Firefly 2 has replaceable batteries and it’s a convection vaporizer meaning you could take draws here and there without having to vape the entire bowl in one session. I really like the free flowing vapor path on the Mighty and the on vape temp buttons/full temp spectrum. Really it just comes down to the style of sessions you prefer. Do you want to session a vape for 10 minutes (mighty) or do you want to take a quick draw and get back to your business(Firefly). Firefly has a bit better flavor and vapor quality as well. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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      • Sam says: October 11, 2016 at 7:30 am

        Hi Buzz, have gone through the entire review and your review of other vapes. It’s narrowing down to Crafty, Pax 2 and Firefly 2, leaning towards the latter. More of a dry herb user and occasionally hash. Generally I smoke solo, say an entire joint but at my own pace, maybe an hour or two, while staring at the night sky (we all have our unique ways of enjoying plants!). So it seems FF2 is the best way to go. But is that what this vape is ideally suited for? Would the battery be depleted within this time or does it actually only release power with each drag to fire up the oven? Am I wasting the FF2 when it’s used in this manner since it doesn’t seem to be a session vape like the Crafty, yet looks perfectly fine to be used as such? Don’t want to spoil the dang thing by misusing it. Thanks bro, and keep the good work up! Loving all your reviews.

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        • Buzz Danklin says: November 16, 2016 at 5:20 pm

          I really like the Crafty because of the smooth, cool, free-flowing vapor. The Firefly 2 has better taste because of the convection heating system but it’s not quite as enjoyable to use in the scenario you just described to me. If you are familiar with a joint, the Crafty is pretty much a direct replacement. The sessions will last about the same length, around 15 draws total. The Firefly 2 can definitely be used in that scenario as well but works best if you just wanted a couple puffs and not vape the entire chamber. The Firefly 2 also extracts the compounds from the herb much quicker. You can vape an entire Firefly 2 bowl in 5 hits (depending on temp, pack type and type of dry herb) if you rip it for the full 30 seconds each time. If you wanted the purest taste/flavor I would go with the Firefly 2. If you wanted the most enjoyable session for the scenario you just described, my choice would be the Crafty.

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  • Brad says: April 6, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    Hey man, thanks for the great review! when you say FF2 has become ur favorite vape for concentrates, do you mean favorite among other “flower vapes” or among all vapes including the ones just meant for concentrates. Thanks again!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 6, 2016 at 5:43 pm

      Thanks Brad! It’s my favorite among dry herb vaporizers that can do concentrates.

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  • Gambit says: April 8, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    Can you talk about toxicity?

    A few things that concern me:

    -quicksilver finish? What kind of Fi ish is that? Is it actual silver?

    -Magnesium Alloy in place of a solid Stainless Steel like the FF1 which I personally love it feels like quality

    -Boroscillate glass bowl? But with a metal bottom of the bowl? What kind of metal?

    Most importantly:

    -Plastic Moutpiece with Rubber and silicone? Is there any heat transferring to the mountpiece? Is it even safe to have high grade plastic or rubber or silicone like that?

    I get that it is “Food” Grade, but that just means from a eating off of it standpoint, not inhaling.

    Can you comment on any or all of this? Love your reviews!

    Haven’t heard from Vape Critic and I asked him weeks ago, hopefully you’re much more responsive

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 13, 2016 at 8:54 pm

      Hey Gambit,

      I am not sure what you mean quicksilver finish. The new chassis is a magnesium alloy like you mentioned and the actual vapor path is lined with gorilla glass. While the old unit did have more of a solid feel because of the weight, the new unit feels much nicer in my pocket and it’s easier to carry around on the go. The metal at the bottom of the bowl is stainless steel. While I am not a huge fan of plastic and I was not thrilled when I saw the mouthpiece was made out of it, it has turned out to be fine in my opinion. I don’t get any off flavors from the mouthpiece and the vapor is definitely cool before it reaches the mouthpiece.

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  • Bill says: April 21, 2016 at 9:33 am

    Great site, very helpful. I’m a newbie to vaping and getting ready to buy my first vaporizer. The most important thing to me is ease of use, and vapor temp and quality. I cough like crazy when I smoke, so I probably need the smoothed vapor I can get. The FF2 seems to be the one to go with. The only question or hesitation I have is, FF2 seems to smoke like a pipe/bowl. I prefer a joint to a bowl. Should I consider the crafty because of this ? Or is the FF2 smooth enough , I’ll also enjoy it ?

    Thanks in advance for any help

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 21, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      The main difference between the Pax 2 and the Firefly 2 is the convection heating on the FF2. So if you like joints more, you like to sit down for a bit, take your time, enjoy your session for 10-15 minutes, finish the bowl and be done, I think you would like the Crafty. The Crafty is a session vaporizer meaning that you can take multiple long draws over the course of that 10-15 minute session. Just like a joint.

      Now with the FF2, you are heating up the herbs only when you are drawing. So you would press the heat button on the firefly 2, wait about 5 seconds and then start drawing immediately for about 30 seconds and then the vaporizer turns off. You’re not wasting the herbs in the chamber when you aren’t hitting it and you can leave the herbs in the chamber to come back and hit it later. The best practice for the Crafty is to finish the entire bowl in one session whereas the Firefly 2 is an on demand convection vaporizer to get you quick hits and move on with your day.

      It sounds like to me that you would enjoy the Crafty more but the Crafty battery life is much less than FF2, is NOT replaceable and takes longer to charge than FF2 batteries. The entire battery system is much better with the FF2 as far as session length and amount of session that you can get.

      But yea, joint wise, Crafty seems like the winner. Bong rips/pipe hits, I would go with FF2. FF2 has slightly better vapor quality but slightly more draw resistance than Crafty. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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      • Bill says: April 21, 2016 at 1:54 pm

        Is the FF2 smooth? A bong or pipe is almost too harsh for me. Don’t enjoy it. Although, I really like the idea of just a bit here or there and setting down.

        Is ff2 is still a really smooth smoke, and isn’t harsher than crafty ? Is it harsh like a bong or pipe hit?

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        • Buzz Danklin says: April 21, 2016 at 2:37 pm

          Both the FF2 and the Crafty are very smooth and great tasting. The sessions are the difference, the FF2 is meant to take a couple draws from and put away/come back to later. The Crafty is meant to session for 10+ minutes and finish the chamber. Neither vapes are anywhere near as harsh as a bong hit/pipe hit/joint hit.

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          • Steve Gerrish says: October 2, 2016 at 7:37 pm

            Im also torn between the two, FF2 and Crafty… im trying to come off joints and change onto vapes, trying to be healthier in my old age plus the fact my lungs are starting to ache… anyway, all the reviews ive read have specified that the Crafty is more of a session vape, but surely when the FF2 has run out cant you used top it up again therefore turning it into a session vape?

          • Buzz Danklin says: October 3, 2016 at 5:05 pm

            If you want a similar experience to a joint, I suggest the Crafty, it’s a really similar ritual overall. You will fill it up with about .25g turn it on, and then take draws for 4-8 minutes, about the same length as a joint. The FF2 is on demand like you mentioned, so it performs more like a bowl, where you finish the .15g load in much fewer draws and less time overall. You can refill the FF2 and rip through another bowl right away if you like as well. The main advantage to the Crafty will be the ease of use and consistency, it requires no special techniques, grinds etc. You will just get good results no matter what. With the FF2 the advantage is the on demand heat makes it more versatile, if you want to stop halfway through a bowl that’s fine, with a session vape its wasteful to stop halfway through. You will also get the very best flavor, and overall vapor quality with the FF2. On the flip side, the FF2 requires more technique/practice than the Crafty, and you will occasionally have to stir the bowl to get it to vape 100% evenly. Overall I love both the Crafty and FF2, so pick whatever one fits your lifestyle/preference but I think you will love either one.

  • Bajangreen says: April 24, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    Hey Buzz, I’m guessing that as it is ‘on demand’ the body of the FF2 doesn’t get as hot as the Crafty does eh? Also, besides battery and concentrate pads, are there any other components that may require changing (noticed no screens like Crafty)? Lastly, like Joe asked… Would you by chance have a promo code? Looking to upgrade from Crafty.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 24, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      The Firefly 2 does not get as hot as the Crafty, the hottest I have gotten it is after heavy concentrate use, and its still less hot. There is a very small screen in the mouthpiece, that may need replacing way down the road, but so far mine is still in 100% perfect condition. Unfortunately there are no promo codes yet, they didn’t even have a 4/20 sale, but if/when I ever come across any I will definitely post them in this article.

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  • JDH says: April 25, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    I really like everything I have read about this vape, except that I cannot use it for really low temp herbs like 215 F.
    Do you have any ideas of something similar that is convection that can heat between 215 – 400 F?

    Nice, detailed review tho :)

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 26, 2016 at 6:20 am

      For full convection the closest would be the Grasshopper but that goes from 266-410F. If you want a hybrid conduction/convection unit the Crafty and the Mighty will go from 104-410F

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  • silat says: April 29, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Great review.
    Can the battery be charged while it is outside the FF2?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: April 29, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      Only if you pick up the external charger on their site (it says for the Firefly1, but it works flawless for the FF2 as well) for an additional $30, otherwise the batteries can only be charged internally.

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  • G says: May 4, 2016 at 12:44 am

    My apartment doesn’t allow smoking (nothing related to vaporizers). How much ‘smoke smell’ does this vaporizer have?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 8, 2016 at 7:27 pm

      All vaporizers will smell, people generally say vapes smell half as much as smoking, but the smell goes away over twice as fast. I would also say the Firefly 2 is one of if not my very least smelly vapes overall

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  • talis says: May 5, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Sounds great except for one serious issue.
    Temps are only controlled through a phone app.
    Sadly this is a deal breaker for me.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 8, 2016 at 7:32 pm

      I understand, not everyone has a phone or wants to deal with one. I hope they add functionality to the app eventually that lets you change the temps with the unit, maybe something like 2 or 4 taps on the right buttons raises the temp, and 2 or 4 taps on the left button lowers it?

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  • K8 says: May 17, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Thanks so much for detailed review. One thing: Is this an open bowl? Like a pipe? So you have to empty it before you put it away?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 18, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      The bowl is not open, it just has a viewing window so you can see into the bowl while its closed. You can definitely leave it full when you put it away, one of the best parts about on demand convection vapes is that I can hit it a few times, then put it away. Then I can pull it back out and finish the bowl another time.

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  • donaleen says: May 17, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    I have a firefly and love it except for the battery life. I spoke to Firefly and I am not sure I would like the Firefly 2 as well even though there are several improvements. What I like about the firefly original is I can control the temperature with how I use the button. I was told by Firefly that this will not be true on the Firefly 2. I have to hold the button to draw which means the unit is controlling the temperature, not me. I control it based on taste.

    I also am unhappy with the temperature settings being available only by app. Have you heard of anyone who prefers the old model over the new model?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: May 18, 2016 at 4:22 pm

      The battery issue has been solved with the FF2, I get double the battery life from a full charger, and now you get two batteries. As far as controlling the temp, I find it to be really similar to the FF1, just overall easier. I find myself choosing a temp setting I like, and then controlling my draw speed to control the vapor based on taste rather than using the trigger and taste. Basically I draw much slower than normal until I get the taste/density I am looking for and then I speed up my draw to keep the vapor how I like it, the faster you draw the lighter it gets, and the slower the denser.

      I have heard of people who had complaints about certain aspects of the FF2, like not being a huge fan of needing a phone app, but a lot of people seem to enjoy playing with the temp settings until they find what works best for them, and then quite a few people are staying at that temp unless they switch to concentrates.

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      • Koty says: May 19, 2016 at 3:41 pm

        Do you have any recommendations for carrying cases? How do you transport yours between your place and your buddies?

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        • Buzz Danklin says: May 22, 2016 at 6:17 pm

          I am currently using the fabric sleeve that came with my original Firefly 1, but I know Firefly has a case in the works, that I will definitely buy/test as soon as it comes out.

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    • Mike says: January 14, 2017 at 1:44 am

      You can use the firefly 2 battery in your firefly 1, and the battery life is a lot better.

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    • Mike says: January 14, 2017 at 1:47 am

      Firefly and firefly2 batteries are interchangable.

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      • Buzz Danklin says: January 14, 2017 at 4:03 pm

        The Firefly 2 battery has a tab to help for easy removal in the FF2, so the FF2 battery works great in the FF1, but the FF1 battery is sort of tough to remove from the FF2.

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  • lb says: June 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    great reviews. I have a Crafty which died in 4 mos, and is at s&b for repair. they said i could exchange for a Plenty or get it back. Not sure which to choose.,I am impressed with two others now: The Firefly2 and new cloud xhaleEvo. I’d like all 4, but the cost is out of the question, as, Im in Canada, so the Firefly is around $525 CAD to the door, if they don’t charge duty on top .The Evo is $450 plain, $600 w honeycomb. both uncomfortable prices. ( Crafty was $458) and I would like a premium piece, as I am using Arizer Solo while the mercedes is in the shop, and its just not a luxury item. Im leaning towards keep the crafty plus get a Firefly. thanks!

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 5, 2016 at 11:38 am

      I think if you keep the Crafty you should get the CloudEVO! Or if you get the Crafty back, sell it and pick up the Firefly 2 and the CloudEVO. The Crafty and Firefly 2 both have good, cool vapor quality but the CloudEVO is on an entirely different level. Especially with the honeycomb hydratube. If it was me and I already had the Crafty, I would pick up the Grasshopper or the CloudEVO. Something with more power that can really take me to the next level if I wanted too. I’m also a heavier user so I like the big draws every so often. The Firefly 2 and the Crafty don’t really deliver the punch of the Grasshopper or the CloudEVO. Hope that makes sense, let me know if you have any more questions.

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  • Jo Ann says: June 4, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Hi Buzz, thanks for the all the great comments. I just received my FF2, and I have to say it was worth the wait. I have used it now for two days, and I tend to clean it more often than most say they do. What I am not too happy about is the mouthpiece. I found it tricky to pull off, without being able to get a good grip on it, my fingers were slipping from it. Also, I didn’t realize that tiny microparticle filter was loose, and I almost lost it sitting out on my deck before I even tried my new FF2. I went back online to do a search about it, but I couldn’t find any forums or reviewers who discussed this issue. Then, I find out you have to buy the entire mouth piece, and not just the filter. I went to order one (they actually come two for $9.95 on the FF website), and they are out of stock. I am worried that if I do lose the filter, that I won’t be able to use the FF2 until FF has the mouthpiece back in stock. I couldn’t find any other vendor selling the mouthpiece. Your comment?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: June 5, 2016 at 11:31 am

      I’m hoping we see some 3rd party Firefly 2 mouthpieces here soon but for now don’t lose it! The FF2 will still work fine without the screen just don’t grind as fine and hopefully you won’t get any snacks in your mouth. You could even just pick up some circle screens and custom cut the size to fit the mouthpiece. I’ll reach out to them and see if they will have some in stock soon and update this comment. Thanks for the kind words!

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    • csmoke88 says: June 28, 2016 at 4:51 pm

      Hey, how long did it take for you to receive your firefly 2?

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      • Buzz Danklin says: June 28, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        I would say about 3 weeks. But I bought a Blue colored Firefly 2 and I bought it right in the beginning of pre-sales. I have heard of people getting them as soon as 3 days but it may take a little longer.

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  • notshortcuts says: June 30, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    Great review and closest to my experience of the reviews I’ve read. Differences for me: One of my batteries died after only a dozen sessions or so. Firefly says they’ll send me another. I get a chemical flavor the first hits of each session. I get less smoke and need more hits to get high than with Mighty. While you and others claim the instant heat makes bud last longer, I actually get more sessions out of Mighty. So, while I like the design and function greatly including flavor (overall), efficiency, size, ease of packing and cleaning …. I would not rate this as good as the current kings Crafty/Mighty.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: July 5, 2016 at 4:58 am

      I really appreciate your thoughts. I absolutely love my Crafty and Mighty as well. I often reach for one of them when I am looking for a longer relaxed session, and definitely when I am in a group. Then I go for the Firefly when I want to get topped up quickly, get maximum flavor when I get a new strain, or when I just want to finish a bowl in 5 or 6 rips at my own pace rather than a straight session. The Firefly 2 works great while I am playing video games, and I can just take a draw here or there. Have you had your Crafty or Mighty fail on you? I am still on my first units for each *knock on wood* but I am seeing lots of other people have units failing.

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  • Peter Roberts says: August 8, 2016 at 4:23 am

    Hey man, Great review. I’m most concerned about discretion, which includes smell. How smelly does the ff2 get when you put it back into your pocket after a session? I wouldn’t want to bring it to a party and have it stinking up the place post usage. I wouldn”t want my apartment to smell of weed after smoking either. If I smoked on the way to a movie and then kept the ff2 in my pocket, would it be noticeably smelly?

    This is actually made me decide against the pax. What would you say the least smelly vape would be?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: August 8, 2016 at 7:14 am

      The Firefly 2 might actually be my least smelly vape, with other on demand vapes such as the Grasshopper also being low smell. Keep in mind if you run the higher temps and take a huge rip you can still exhale big clouds, and big clouds will always smell, but its very easy to take a handful of small stealthy rips with the FF2.

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      • Peter Roberts says: August 8, 2016 at 11:03 am

        I was wondering about how the unit itself smelled after its usage, Ive read the pax 2 is very smelly post session. How would a post session firefly 2 smell in my pocket?

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        • Buzz Danklin says: August 8, 2016 at 11:08 am

          The Firefly 2 might actually be my least smelly vape, with other on demand vapes such as the Grasshopper also being low smell. The good thing about the FF2 is that it only heats up as you’re using it so when you go to put it back in your pocket, it’s already cool and not heating the herbs. Whereas something like the Pax 2 will still be cooling down as you throw it back in your pocket and still producing smell. As a general rule of thumb, convection vapes like the Grasshopper and Firefly 2 will smell less than the conduction vaporizers due to the heat up and cool down process.

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          • Peter Roberts says: August 8, 2016 at 11:05 pm

            Great news. Almost buying one. Have you heard of any manufacturers defects or issues with the Firefly 2 since writing this review?

          • Buzz Danklin says: August 9, 2016 at 3:40 am

            I have not, the launch has actually been much smoother than most vape launches even with demand outpacing supply.

  • Jon says: August 21, 2016 at 1:01 am

    Can i exchange my original firefly for a new one?

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    • Buzz Danklin says: August 21, 2016 at 1:18 pm

      As far as I know, no. But you can always ask for a discount or something. Worst case scenario they say no.

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  • Viktor says: August 26, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    Can i smoke hash in the FF2 or in other portable vapes

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    • Buzz Danklin says: September 8, 2016 at 10:54 am

      I don’t have any experience with hash man sorry. I would check out fuck combustion or maybe ask on r/vaporents

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  • Doctor Vape says: August 26, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    I give the Firefly 2 a 9.8 (Glass and Scientific grade metal). I got it last Friday. I have used it everyday. It is a great vape. The metal and glass build, the glass window, the flavor, very powerful, the dock, easy to clean and when cleaned its like brand new every time, no filters to clean or replace, it comes with 2 batteries a cleaning kit, the unboxing is top rate, the warranty is great, the app is a very good feature, the size is very good, excellent portability and the convection oven and dynamic heating is like no other vaporizer very stealth.

    The batteries do have to be changed sometimes in midst of a long session. This would be a major negative but the Firefly 2 does come with 2 batteries. It can be awkward to hold when touching both sense buttons. This would also be a major negative, but it can be changed via the app, and its not that difficult of a hurdle to get used to. The downside to the app is it needs to be reconnected each time, or it will be set to factory settings. I find this annoying because I need to keep my phone close.

    I am retiring some great vapes in favor of the Firefly 2, My Magic Flight (9.6), My Arizer Air (9.6), and My Arizer Solo. I will still use my Arizer Extreme Q Desktop unit, but not as much the Firefly 2 is an extremely powerful device. I would also like to warn you to take it slow while getting used to your Firefly 2, it is a very powerful vaporizer.

    I have learned via the vapes I have purchased that, although the plastics get top tier reviews fo vapes like the Volcano, Plenty, Mighty, Crafty, Pax, and others made with plastic. I have learned that there is a major taste difference, and the taste from these plastic vapes, is coming from the plastic and rubber washers. This is something that has been ignored by Bud and many other critics.

    I would like to say I am on a crusade to make my fellow Vapers aware the plastic vapes are marketed extremely well, the initial results are great, but the long term results go south pretty quickly.

    The Firefly for the most part will take the place of my Solo (Metal and Glass), Air (Metal and Glass), Magic Flight (Wood, Metal Acrylic) and my desktop The Arizer Extreme Q (Glass and Glass!) desktop unit. Please stay away from the highly rated and marketed vapes made of plastic and rubber, its toxic. The performance might be super duper but plastic and rubber when heated and inhaled into your lungs cant be a good thing. Glass and Metal is pure vaping.

    — Doctor Vape

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  • Thom warren says: August 29, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    While all the reviews rave about this device (I have a FF2) none addresses tips in getting a decent vapor draw other than just finger crush the buds (NO grind) and loosely pack. I am about 50% successful (at best) on getting a decent draw. Very frustrating for a + 300 device touted as the best on the market… I have the app loaded and have tried all the heat settings. Medium and below I get hardly any vapor. The lid is sealed (another challenge) and I draw per the instructions. At least with my Arizer solo I get a good draw every time… Unless someone can tell me why this isn’t working for me, I feel I have wasted a fair chunk of change and all the rave reviews are just very subjective.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: August 29, 2016 at 2:28 pm

      I definitely recommend grinding your herb and fill the chamber completely with herb. Pre-heat the chamber, wait for the light to go solid, begin drawing extremely slow and for about 20-30 seconds. I slow down my draw speed until there is basically no resistance. It’s definitely a long pull and requires more lung capacity but I get huge rips with this technique. A lot of the “clouds/vapor” depend on the herbs as well. How wet or dry it is and what strain specifically you are vaping. Also, the temps that you vape at. Just because you are at low temps and don’t see any clouds doesn’t mean you aren’t getting the effects, they just won’t be as strong. In my experience, the lower temps that don’t usually create clouds is a “clearer” or “lighter” experience, whereas the higher temps that produce large clouds are stronger. Lastly, make sure that the herbs are cleared off around the chamber and all the around the device before putting the lid back on.

      For me, the biggest thing is the draw speed. Slow it down and try to aim for 30 second draw times. I use medium high. Let me know if this helps out or you have any more questions. Hopefully, you can get some better results.

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      • Thom Warren says: October 21, 2016 at 5:18 pm

        Hi Buzz;
        So I’m getting pretty good clouds when I grind , pack and draw correctly. Now my beef is the company. I sent my FF2 back because the buttons were being intermittent and I sometimes had to remove the battery and reinsert to get them to work. The support people say there is nothing wrong and won’t do anything. Terrible customer service. Why would I misrepresent this problem ?
        Everything is current, the app, firmware, etc. If I had it to do over I would not spend that kind of money on a vape except to buy two more Arizer solo units. At least it works dependably.
        This unit and company is highly over rated IMHO. It may heat fast but if you have issues with it, don’t depend on the company to be concerned about it. Very poor customer service. The least they could do was to replace the unit…..
        Thanks fo rlistening

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        • Buzz Danklin says: October 22, 2016 at 11:44 am

          Yea that’s a shitty experience, sorry dude. Is the unit still defective?

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          • Thom Warren says: October 25, 2016 at 9:43 am

            I am told they are shipping it back as of last Friday with the diagnosis “our tech people say your unit is functioning properly”. If that’s their def of working properly, there you have it.
            We’ll see. Thanks man. I appreciate your listening and reply…..

          • Buzz Danklin says: October 31, 2016 at 6:05 pm

            If you get it back, and are still having trouble getting the results you are looking for, you should email me at admin@vaporizerwizard.com and I will gladly walk you through my technique step by step.

  • path51 says: September 3, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    Probably a stupid question but I am brand new to vaping. Just bought a FF2 after reading your and other reviews. But have been puffing on it since last night and there is still flower in the bowl. Since it doesn’t burn, what does happen? When should I empty?

    I have seen no clouds but definitely feel a smooth high. Maybe I’m not doing it right but liking it so far.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: September 4, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      I like to grind my herb pretty good and pack a fairly large bowl. Make sure that NO herbs are touching the edge of the chamber or blocking the lid from sealing completely. The Firefly works very well when splitting bowls into multiple sessions and it’s basically made for that purpose. You’ll notice the herbs are finished when they are a dark brown color and not putting out any vapor.

      If you wanted to get some better clouds, I recommend the medium-high setting, pack the chamber full of ground up herb, pre-heat the chamber until the light stops blinking and then slowly draw for about 30 seconds. This gives me the biggest clouds and the hardest hits. Basically, slow down your draw until you feel zero resistance and continue to draw until the unit stops heating.

      Now just because you aren’t getting any vapor doesn’t mean you aren’t getting any results. I’ve found shorter lower temp draws will produce a lighter, more refreshing type of session where the higher temps will create larger clouds and the effects will be more intense. If you fully pack a chamber, I would estimate at least 4-8 good sized rips before the herbs are spent. I also recommend stirring up the herbs in between draws to get the best results.

      Let me know how it goes and thanks for checking out my site.

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  • Aliyah Dwyer says: September 9, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    I purchased mine, a few weeks ago. The good quality of parts, the window, the glow, the glass path, and the sleek look. The bad, the battery is on the weak side. Its very easy to clean.

    The Bad:
    The unit is not powerful, you need to ramp it up to High, in order to get medium, if your at medium it feels like its not working.
    The unit despite its low output gets very hot, to the point where it needs to be put down. The fix for the low output is a firmware update from the app.
    You cant work the vape without the manufacturing bugs without the app.
    The app needs to be turned on and your phone right next to you.
    The battery has little plastic footers that have broken off on batteries.
    Draw resistance is a big problem it takes a lot of huffing to get a puff. I feel exhausted after 5 hit.
    Its a lot of work to get the vape working the way I want.

    I am sorry for the negative feedback but the bad outweighs the good to say the least. I appreciate my Arizer Air and Solo more.

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  • Exodia says: September 27, 2016 at 1:36 am

    Hey Buzz, love the detailed vid review and content! Quick question about the Firefly 2, coming from a fellow skier. I’m looking for a vape that I can pull out every once in a while and take a few sips or maybe one longer draw, then stick back into my pocket and repeat at various times throughout a day. I understand that this vape excels at this sort of stop-and-go usage due to it’s on-demand heating style. My question is, will this vape perform at temperatures typically found at ski resorts? I’d plan to just toss it into my jacket pocket and only be pulling it out every once in a while for a hit; perhaps on a ski lift or on the side of a ski trail.

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    • Buzz Danklin says: November 16, 2016 at 5:28 pm

      Yes, here is a picture I took of my buddy testing out a beta firefly 2 before they even released it. We made sure it would work out there lol. Pray for snow! Have a great season!

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  • Natalie Jane says: November 20, 2016 at 7:26 pm

    Buzz, where have you been all my life?! After spending the last half hour reading up on your reviews for both the FF2 and the Crafty, I’ve decided on the FF2. I had been about to buy a Crafty when I decided to read your review on the FF2 before buying (just in case) and between your review and your answers to questions above, I’m so glad I did! While I am a novice with flower (I have terrible asthma so I’ve usually stayed away from it), I’m super stoked to start vaping flower. (Side note: I have lupus and have found a killer strain to help the pain in my hands but I can only get easy access to it in flower form.) Thanks again and I’m thrilled I found you. Cheers!

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  • Toni Tannon says: December 8, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    I recently purchased an FF2 and was disappointed initially due to many of the same issues listed by some of your readers, but after reading your replys, tips and following your recommendations the FF2 really is a superb work of art. Thank you for being so thorough and generous with your time, our vaping experience will be all the better for it ;-).

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    • Buzz Danklin says: December 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm

      My pleasure Toni! Thanks for the kind words and for checking out my site. I really enjoy my FF2. It’s definitely not the easiest vaporizer to use but it can produce amazing results once you’ve mastered the techniques. I always find myself getting super ripped when I come back to it after testing other vapes. I’ve had it for so long at this point but every time I pick up the Firefly 2, it completely surprises me.

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  • Vape Master says: December 22, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    First There was Fire, The Wheel and then The Firefly2.

    ^ ^ ^ The Vape Master ^ ^ ^

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