Pax 3 Vaporizer Review

Pax 3 Review [4K Video] ~13:58

The Pax 3 is a portable dry herb and concentrate vaporizer from PAX Labs. This is the third iteration of the very popular Pax line and it continues to improve while staying true to what made the Pax so popular in the first place; elegant look and feel, ease of use, portability and discreetness, along with top-tier reliability and warranty. For more information on the older model which is now $199 after the price drop check out my Pax 2 review

The upgrades over the Pax 2 include a new Concentrate insert, an upgraded battery with bumped capacity from 3000 mAh to 3500 mAh, quicker heat up times from around 45 seconds down to around 15 seconds, haptic feedback or vibration alert, and the brand new Pax Vapor app which gives you full control over the temp spectrum.

The Pax 3 retails for $274.99 ($5 cheaper than Pax 2 release) and comes in Rose Gold, Black, Gold or Silver. I recommend picking it up directly from Pax Labs or VapeWorld. Check out my full pax 3 review below.

Pax 2 and Pax 3 Vaporizers

Blue Pax 2 and Black Pax 3

Pax 3 size, portability and build quality

Despite having other portable vapes that stand out in specific categories like better flavor or replaceable batteries, the overall package including size, portability, battery life, build quality and ease of use made the Pax 2 my most frequently used vape for outdoor activities such as hiking/biking/skiing.  The new Pax 3 has the same physical dimensions as Pax 2 with a slight weight increase of three grams. I am actually happy they kept the same size because I really loved the size, weight distribution, and overall feel of the Pax 2. It also means aftermarket accessories for the Pax2 will also work for the Pax3 which is great. When you hold the Pax 3 you will notice that it has a nice solid feel with even weight distribution and no rattles or loose parts.

Out of the box the Pax 3 is visually very stealthy, however, it can be smelly after use (especially if you don’t empty the oven after your sessions), so if you personally need to be extra discreet about smell, I recommend you pick up the ‘Pax 2 End Caps’ for less than $3 from Delta 3d Studios to conceal excess smell.

The first thing you will notice after picking up the new Pax vaporizer is the highly polished finish which is much shinier, nicer feeling in the hands, and in my opinion nicer looking than the transverse brushed finish on the Pax 2. However, I am curious if the highly polished finish holds up as well in the long run. My Pax 3 has been on a handful of biking trips already but has yet to encounter any hard falls so my finish is still in perfect shape. Winter is coming and the ski season is fast approaching so I’ll soon see how it handles snow, moisture, elevation and the cold and wind soon. I do fully expect it to pass with flying colors like the previous unit, but like always I will continually update my review as my testing continues.

One of the minor upgrades to the Pax 3 is the addition of haptic feedback or vibration alert. This is a feature that has become more and more common with the newer vapes. I am actually really impressed with the vibration on the Pax 3, the vibration is minimal but noticeable, some vapes can make audible/obnoxious noises while they vibrate but the Pax vibrate is a good combination of noticeable yet still discreet.

Overall the Pax vaporizers have always felt very strong and durable in the hands while being backed up by a 10-year warranty and a good reputation for reliability. The Pax 3 is no different.

Pax 3 Vaporizer Accessories

Key-chain multi-tool, flat mp, raised mp, lid, half-pack lid, concentrate insert

Accessories, Half-Pack Lid, and Concentrates Insert

This is the biggest addition with the new Pax 3. Instead of getting one chamber lid you now get three choices. First, you get the original chamber lid for a full-size oven, the newest option is the half-pack lid which I’m a HUGE fan of and last but certainly not least, the new concentrate insert.

Half-Pack Lid – One of the biggest complaints I’ve heard from users with the Pax and Pax 2 is the oven size is too big for single session users. You previously had to make a custom insert out of folded stainless steel screen, or purchase 3rd party accessories to really make the Pax/Pax 2 efficient for one person sessions. The Half-Pack lid has greatly improved the single user session and it’s pretty much the only lid that I use now when I am solo. I also noticed the Half-Pack lid reduces to amount of draw resistance and allows for a freer flowing draw. I estimate resistance is reduced around 15-20% so overall I am really happy with the new lid.

Pax 3 Vaporizer Half-Pack Chamber

Half-Pack lid which has become my go-to lid

Concentrate Insert – I’m extremely happy that Pax Labs decided to listen to us and add in a concentrate option. The growing trend is hard to ignore and consumers (myself included) like the option to use concentrates with their portable vaporizers.

Pax 3 Concentrate Chamber Internals

Concentrate insert with the lid removed to show insides

I’ve found the concentrate lid to work well. I’ve gone through a bunch of bowls at this point and have tried some runnier concentrates as well as more waxy flakey concentrates.  So far nothing is leaking and there are no messes to clean up afterward. It’s definitely a session style with concentrates where you can get a dozen or so tasty draws as opposed to a red hot pen coil, dab rig or a something like the Cloud EVO where you are taking 1-2 lung-busting rips.

The taste and vapor smoothness is really nice. I would say it compares closest to the concentrate experience of the Haze V3, however, the Pax 3 doesn’t get as messy and requires less frequent cleaning from concentrate use. Previously people used to sandwich concentrates between dry herb, or wrap concentrates in cotton and fill the oven, however, the new concentrate lid definitely blows the older methods out of the water in my opinion. Overall I find the Pax 3 to be very effective and efficient without making a huge mess or wasting materials.

Mouthpieces – With the Pax 2 I almost exclusively used the flat mouthpiece because the raised mouthpiece would get hot on my lips and provided an overall worse experience in my opinion.  They have now improved the raised mouthpiece and its equally enjoyable to use, although slightly different.  At the moment I can’t decide which one I like more, I think I am leaning towards the flat MP for the cleaner look, however, it may just be that I am used to the flat MP from extended Pax 2 use.

Heating, vapor path, and temp options

This is another big area of improvement and I’m finding myself reaching for the Pax 3 more often now because of the quick heat up time. The Pax 2 takes about 45-60 seconds to heat up which has slowly been falling behind a lot of the newer vapes, But now I’m grabbing the Pax 3 because I can start a session in literally 15 seconds, which is the now the fastest heating session vape I own.

Pax 3 Vaporizer Concentrate and Half-Pack Chamber

About to insert the concentrate lid

Now the Pax 3 still won’t heat quite as fast as the GH or Firefly 2 if you’re looking for an on-demand portable that you heat up for each individual draw instead of heating the whole oven for a full session. But it’s much-improved heat up time makes it the fastest heating portable conduction session vaporizer I have tested yet.

The four heat settings are:

  • Temperature 1 –  360F / 182C – 1 Green LEDs  (16 second pre-heat time)
  • Temperature 2 – 380F / 193C – 2 Yellow LEDs  (16 second pre-heat time)
  • Temperature 3 – 400F / 204C – 3 Orange LEDs  (17 second pre-heat time)
  • Temperature 4 – 420F / 215C – 4 Red LEDs  (18 second pre-heat time)

The vapor path remains the same as the Pax 2. Like I mentioned above, I’ve found less draw resistance with the Half-Pack lid but everything else seems to be pretty much the same.

Pax Vapor App

Pax 3 Vapor APP Guide [4K Video] ~7:37

Lastly, the Pax Vapor APP allows you to customize your session with individual temp selections and with different heating profiles. The five different heating profiles are standard, boost mode, efficiency mode, stealth mode and flavor mode.

Boost mode keeps the oven hotter for longer with less auto cooling. I personally like this mode if you are looking for a faster session, you are looking for denser clouds, or you are using the Pax with a water pipe adapter. Efficiency mode ramps up the oven temperature throughout your session so this is an enjoyable setting to use. Stealth mode cools quicker and allows for stealthy light quick hits. Flavor Mode is all about preservation and only heating your herbs when you are drawing, use this mode if you value flavor and vapor smoothness over vapor density.

Pax 3 Vaporizer APP Options and Settings

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So far I’ve been using stock settings (with all modes turned off), the efficiency mode, and occasionally Flavor mode for my normal-dry herb sessions, but I’ve been using boost mode when I’m using glass at home or using the concentrate insert.

It’s important to note that you don’t need a phone or the app to effectively operate the Pax 3. You can change temps via the power button located at the top just like you would with a Pax or Pax 2. The application only adds additional function and customization.

Chamber Info and Bowl Size

The chamber and bowl size have stayed the same on the Pax 3. The only differences are the three lids that come with the unit instead of just the full-pack oven lid. I have found that I can pack roughly .15-.20 grams of dry herb into the oven when I am using the half-pack lid depending on the grind (medium to coarse grind fits .15 and with an extra fine grind it holds .20). With the standard oven lid, the Pax 3 oven will hold .30-.40 grams of dry herb. With the concentrate insert, I have found less is more, and performance drops and cleaning ramps up if you over-load it.

Cleaning and Maintenance

So far I’ve noticed the draw resistance kicks up after around 8-10 bowls as the screen starts to clog around the edges. That’s generally about when you’ll want to pop it out and re-seat the screen if you are in a hurry, or do a quick cleaning session and wipe out the bowl and the underside of the mouthpiece as well. Occasionally you will have to do a full cleaning, where you will wet the supplied pipe cleaners with isopropyl alcohol and wipe out the vapor path, clean out the oven, especially around the vapor path entrance, and give the mouthpiece a good wipe down.  Generally, the screen re-install every 8-10 bowls take me about 20 seconds.  A quick cleaning where I wipe off the screen, quickly clean out the oven and the mouthpiece takes a minute or two, and the full cleaning which still takes less than 5 minutes and is rarely required. Overall the Pax 3 cleaning is easy and straight forward although you do want to stay on top of it to keep your vape performing its best.

If you plan to use the concentrate insert you will have to clean the vapor path, and the underside of the lid a bit more frequently than if you were strictly using dry herbs. The concentrate insert does a very good job of keeping all the liquid contained so I have not had to do any extra cleaning inside the oven itself. I could see the included seal needing to be replaced at some point to ensure it doesn’t leak out and they have included an extra one for that purpose.  The insert itself is really easy to clean, you just pop the stainless steel canister itself away from the plastic lid, and then drop it into some isopropyl alcohol.  You can just soak it until it is clean then rinse and dry it, and it looks 100% brand new.

Overall the Pax 2 and now the Pax 3 vaporizers have always been pretty quick and easy to clean. You just need to stay on top of them or the draw resistance will ramp up and performance will decline.

Battery Specs, Battery Life and Charging Options

This is another big area of improvement. The Pax 3 now has roughly 17% more battery capacity with 3500 mAh vs the 3000 mAh in the Pax 2. In my testing with a full battery charge, I have gotten between 5 and 10 bowls depending on each sessions length and between 95 and 110 minutes of heated total run-time. This is generally getting me 140-180 total draws per charge. In my tests the Pax 3 has taken 95 and 105 minutes to fully charge from completely dead.  So if you throw the Pax 3 onto the charger for 1.5 hours, you can expect 1.5 hours of runtime which is really impressive, especially for USB charging.

Honestly, the Pax 3 is probably the best unit for battery life at this point which is extremely impressive for its size, although it would be cool if the battery was user replaceable.

The Pax 3 comes with the magnetic charging dock that charges via USB. It’s not the strongest magnet and you’ll need to rubber band the unit/charging dock together if you plan on charging on the go where it will be bounced around like a backpack. I wish they would have given us the smaller ‘mini-charger’ with the Pax 3 but it’s still available for purchase in the accessories section on their website. I’ve found it attaches much better to the unit and you don’t have to worry about it coming off if you are charging the unit on the go.

Pax 3 Comparisons

The Pax 3 comes in at the high end of the price spectrum and can be considered a “premium” vaporizer especially when you factor in the 10-year warranty.  The closest vaporizer to the Pax 3 right now would be the Davinci IQ and I am working on a full comparison article that will be posted soon.

The Crafty is another pocketable unit I really like. With the Crafty you will gain a more free-flowing draw, better flavor and overall vapor quality. However you will lose some size and portability and you will definitely lose on heatup time. A new Crafty takes around 2 minutes to heat up and older units can up to 3 minutes to preheat. You will also get at best half battery life with a Crafty.

The Crafty retails for $329 and comes with a 2-year warranty. Check out my crafty review here.

Summary: Should you buy the Pax 3?

Overall I’m really impressed with the upgrades on the Pax 3. It’s definitely not a “new” vaporizer as far as design and aesthetics but internally Pax Labs made some great improvements. The faster heat up time has me reaching the Pax 3 more than any other vaporizer in my collection currently and you can’t beat the portability/concealment factor. If you are looking for a vaporizer that is easy to use, reliable with a great warranty, consistent, enjoyable to use, and really stealthy the Pax 3 could very well be a perfect fit for you.  I can already tell my Pax 3 is going to get more use than any of my other portables this winter on the ski slopes!

I recommend picking up the Pax 3 directly from Pax LABS or via Vapeworld. Both will ensure you get the manufacturer warranty from a trusted reputable source.

If you have any questions about the Pax 3, Pax 2 or any other vaporizer, feel free to leave a comment below or hit me up on my contact page and I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Thanks for checking out my Pax 3 review and have a great day!

Pax 3 vs Pax 2 Overview: Is the Pax 3 worth the $75 difference?

If you already have a Pax 2, the main differences between the 2 and the 3 will be the heat up time, battery life, haptic feedback and the Pax Vapor APP. If you don’t care about improved battery, heating, and don’t plan to use concentrates you might be better off just picking up the half-pack lid for your Pax 2 as its easily worth the $13 price for me.

Now if you don’t have the Pax 2, even though the Pax 2 is now cheaper at $199 I still definitely recommend going straight for the Pax 3 because you get the half pack lid and the concentrate insert. You are really not spending much extra to get the upgraded internals which are definitely worth that price in my opinion.

Pax 3 Concentrates

Waxing myself up before waxing my skis

Overall Score
Pax 3 Vaporizer Review

The Pax 3 is every bit as good as the Pax 2 with some key upgrades. The Pax 3 now features 15-20 second pre-heats, bluetooth connectivity, a concentrate insert, and a bigger battery (3500mAh now vs 3000mAh on Pax 2). I recommend picking up the Pax 3 directly from PaxLabs or check out Vapeworld.


  • SolSearcher says: October 20, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    So I was wondering about the concentrate insert for the pax 3. You said in your article that the pax 3 has the same bowl size as the pax 2. I was wondering if I could use the pax 3 wax insert with my pax 2 as a different lid for the unit.

    • Buzz Danklin says: October 20, 2016 at 5:45 pm

      It does fit fine in the Pax 2. But no word on if or when they will officially release them for individual sale.

      • BelieveInSteve says: October 22, 2016 at 10:40 am

        I’ve read on Reddit that they aren’t planning on releasing it but I’m sure pax 3 users who don’t use it will sell the insert

        • Buzz Danklin says: October 22, 2016 at 11:43 am

          At some point, Pax 3 users are going to lose or ruin the canister for the concentrate insert so they will need to have replacements available for purchase.

          • Tony says: December 9, 2016 at 4:35 pm

            I would like a 2nd or 3rd insert to pre-load for use when on the go.

  • randy says: October 22, 2016 at 1:40 am

    Do you know if the Pax 2 End Caps’ for less than $3 from Delta 3d Studios to conceal excess smell, fit on the Pax 3? I will definitely need some since I plan on vaping almost everywhere, and would like to have them ready for when the Pax 3 comes out.

    • Buzz Danklin says: October 22, 2016 at 11:41 am

      Yea same dimensions. They should work just fine.

  • Zee says: October 23, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    Which one would you rather use if you’re an active user: the firefly 2 or the pax 3?

    • Buzz Danklin says: October 23, 2016 at 8:39 pm

      I would go for the Pax 3. The Firefly 2 requires a long and slow draw which is quite tough to do if you are ever out of breath or winded. Meanwhile the Pax is pretty forgiving with draws so it works well with long slow draws, or you can take a bunch of short sips with the Pax as well if you are out of breath and it still performs well. I also trust the Pax 3 will handle abuse and bangs much better than the FF2. While I have not dropped my Pax 3 yet, my OG Pax and Pax 2 have really had a rough life and they are both still working well. I have dropped them in the dirt and rocks while biking, taken them to high elevation windy cold skiing conditions and accidentally dropped them in the snow and they are still going strong. If something does go wrong, you get the 10 year warranty with the Pax 3 compared to the 2 years with the FF2

      • Eli says: November 15, 2016 at 4:57 pm

        What do u think crafty or pax 3? I had crafty n loved it. Had pax 2 n not so much kinda annoying after awhile clogged up and cleanjng was a pain in the ass. Do u think the improvements have made a difference or u think i should stick w my crafty. Thanks. Sorry dont know how to leave a comment so did it on a reply

        • Buzz Danklin says: November 16, 2016 at 5:05 pm

          Probably wanna stick with your Crafty or the check out the new Davinci IQ. The improved heat up time and temp control are nice but the Pax 3 functions pretty much the exact same as the Pax 2.

    • Smokey says: December 8, 2016 at 8:07 am

      Pax 3 all the way. I have both and the pax 3 has better battery life, better draws, more sleek and discrete, etc… the flavor for dry herb is much better on the pax 3 in my opinion but as far as concentrates it’s a toss up. They also improved the mouth piece from the pax 2 so that’s another plus. Not much negative I can say about pax 3. My FF2 had major battery life issues even after I sent it in for repair. The FF2 mouth piece and screen is a major pain in the butt and It’s also still pretty clunky especially compared to pax even though they made it smaller than the FF1. I’d give the FF2 an 8 overall and the pax 3 a 9. The only complaint I have about the pax 3 is that the concentrate lid doesn’t sit flush and it may get lost over time so hopefully they have replacement ovens sooner than later. I’d definitely go with Pax 3.

  • James says: October 25, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    Hello, that was a very informative review and filled in a few gaps that other reviews seem to have not touched on specifically the virtues of this vape compared to the Crafty and the FF2. I have a couple of questions about the odor aspect. I checked out the vape caps you suggested and the reviews there are very good, everyone seems happy but I notice that the manufacturer suggests the bottom cap around the oven shouldn’t be fitted during use which I then assume means that these caps are for storage purposes only. That being said, I’ve looked around and found the blackrockog case.
    1) could you have a scan inside and tell me whether you think there are advantages for a having one of those cases instead as they seem fairly compact versus the caps which are loose?
    2) Apart from the clear difference in price, are there any benefits in having the caps over the case?
    3) Are there products available to hide the odor during use, something that fits around the oven or most of the vape? I haven’t vaped before but the idea of being able to use it in public without having to look over my shoulder is appealing.

    • Buzz Danklin says: October 31, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      Hey James,

      I have not used that BlackrockOG case, so I cannot compare them to the caps, but the caps may actually do a better job with smell, since they completely seal off the top and bottom of the Pax.
      1.) I think the biggest advantage to the larger case is the extra space, so you could carry some extras in there, it also looks pretty nice too.
      2.) I think the biggest advantage to the caps are the very small size (when you pull them off to use the Pax, they take almost zero space in your pocket) and I know they stop smells very well, whereas the other zipper cases I have used have been less than stellar at stopping smells (But I have not tried the BlackrockOG)
      3.) The part that will smell the most during use is actually going to be your exhales, but it won’t smell near as strong as smoke, and the smell goes away much quicker. Vapor is also quite a bit thinner/lighter and unless you have good lighting it can be tougher to see so its pretty easy to do in public. For the least smell you would keep the Caps on your Pax until you pull it out to use it, then you will vape, and then toss the caps back on after your finish the oven before throwing it back into your pocket, bag, car etc.

      • Boothillier says: January 8, 2017 at 1:03 am

        Pretty much answered my question as well — looking at the Pax 3 as a good concert vape and thinking the caps will be perfect. That’s been the only problem with conduction vapes I’ve tried, including the Pax 1 — way too conspicuous in terms of residual odor. Now, in terms of odor of exhale, easy: Smoke Buddy Jr.

        So with exhale odor out of the equation, would you agree that with the caps and the “stealth” or “flavor” modes, that the Pax 3 would be my choice for odor stealth, Buzz?

        • Buzz Danklin says: January 8, 2017 at 6:26 pm

          I do think that it’s a great option, and it would serve you well. I find the lower temps are easier to mask the smell, and I also prefer to empty my ovens when they are finished to help reduce smell a bit further.

  • Atom says: November 3, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    I am torn between Pax 3 and Davinci I.Q. Which one do you recommend? I plan on mostly use for flowers anyway.

    • Buzz Danklin says: November 8, 2016 at 11:36 am

      So far I think it comes down to the Pax 3 having better battery life/quicker charge time and I’m enjoying the session more with the IQ. The IQ is probably the best tasting conduction vaporizer that I have tested and it produces some pretty big clouds if that’s your thing. The Pax 3 is still very sleek and the easiest to conceal. I’m looking forward to bringing both out on the slopes this winter and really testing the durability/portability/reliability of both.

  • Brenda Brogren says: November 10, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    Do anyone know when the Pax 3 will be available (date) for sell?

    • Buzz Danklin says: November 12, 2016 at 3:56 pm

      No word yet but I will update this article as soon as its available.

      • Sabra says: November 14, 2016 at 4:50 pm

        and i wanted it for Christmas :'(

        • Tony says: December 9, 2016 at 5:00 pm

          Just got mine yesterday, it does heat fast. I like the concentrate option but like to have extra inserts for the concentrate for on the go.

  • Arty says: November 30, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    Great, thorough review! I loved the breakdown of the heat up times per temperature setting. When using the concentrarte insert, do you have to remove the oven lid so it the insert can fit flush? Any hiccups connecting the vape via Bluetooth with the app? I know the battery is bigger but I hope the constant Bluetooth in the vape will not drain the battery too quickly.

    • Buzz Danklin says: November 30, 2016 at 11:12 pm

      Hey Arty! Thank you for the kind words. The concentrate lid doesn’t sit flush with the unit. I believe they made it that way so you can remove it. With the dry herb lids (half-pack and regular), you have to push down on either side to open the lids. But the concentrate insert takes up pretty much the entire chamber so it can only slide right out with no space on the sides. That’s just my guess. No problems with the app draining battery life.

  • Emily Fisher says: December 1, 2016 at 12:12 am

    This is the 8th review I’ve read on the PAX 3. All go on forever, saying the same damn things, and NOT A SINGLE ONE SAYS WHAT THE PARTS ARE MADE OF, which, personally, is the only thing I care about.

    Unless every heated part, anything that touches herb or lips, is glass or ceramic, I have no interest.

    What are the parts made of?

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 1, 2016 at 12:19 am

      Stainless steel chamber, stainless steel vapor path, food grade silicone mouthpiece.

      • Steve says: December 1, 2016 at 7:56 am

        Hi Buzz, what about the plastic oven lid cover, especially the half pack cover which sits deep inside the oven. This hot plastic is my only reservation with the pax unit… any thoughts or knowledge on this plastic and potential for inhaling microscopic polymer molecules? Thanks!

        • Buzz Danklin says: December 1, 2016 at 8:07 am

          Hey Steve,

          I understand being wary of plastic. I do know they use high heat medical grade plastic which is rated to go to a much higher heat temperature than the oven can ever experience.

  • eric r says: December 2, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    Hey Buzz,
    I’m in the market for a new vape ,my v2 pro3 just crapped out.
    Grass Hopper or pax 3 ?
    can you tell us the pros and cons of each?

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 3, 2016 at 12:31 am

      Hey Eric! Check out my Pax 2 vs GH Comparison. The Pax 2 is basically the same as the Pax 3 except the Pax 3 will have the quicker heat up, better battery life and option for concentrates.

  • Joe Blyskal says: December 3, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    Just received my PAX 3 and I have only good things to say except I am disappointed that the Bluetooth Functions are not as yet presently available, so when?

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 3, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      The PaxVapor app from the app store doesn’t work for me. I have the beta app they gave me for developers and testers which works but doesn’t help you guys. I’ll send out an email and see what the dealio is.

      Edit: It looks like they are aiming for a Jan 1 launch.

  • Col says: December 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    What’s the best grinder to use for loose leaf?

  • Anj says: December 14, 2016 at 10:12 am

    Purchasing a gift for a will-be-first-time vaping friend who has been tasting via glass bowl for years, and other methods prior. How much taste loss will she experience with the PAX3? And how much would you say she gains back if i purchase the Firefly2 instead? I want her to enjoy the switch! Thank you in advance.

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 14, 2016 at 11:29 am

      Hey And, while the FF2 does taste better than the Pax3, both units will taste better than smoking through glass. Your friend will be able to taste the unique traits of her herbs much easier through a vaporizer. If she sticks to only vapes for a week or two, and then tries smoking again she will likely be blown away by how much it tastes like ash, and not the specific traits of the herbs she is consuming. The Pax 3 is very simple, easy, and consistent, so I think that would be the better choice for a first timer. I do love the FF2 but it takes more technique/practice to get the best results so it’s not always the best for brand new users.

  • Terry says: December 16, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Yesterday, I purchased a PAC 3, to wild excitement from all the store at Livewell in Denver. I was told, before you you use it to go on line and register it.

    I attempted to do as instructed. THERE IS NO WAY TO REGISTER the product and there is no way get operation instructions. There is NO website and today LiVWELL will not refund my money

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 16, 2016 at 6:07 pm

      Hey Terry, you will want to register your Pax directly on their own site here. There should also be a small user guide in the box, its on about 2 inch by 2 inch paper folded up. If you are unable to find that, you can check out the Pax 3 FAQ on their site here. Lastly I would be more than happy to answer any specific questions or problems you might have.

  • Ed says: December 21, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    First, The app is not up and running yet. I personally tried the PAX3 and found the vape quality with its herb attachment not very fulfilling. I just could not get that quality vape that I got from the Mightly or Crafty by Storz & Bickel. With the concentrate attachment, I got great quality and tasty vapes, but the concentrate attachment got stock inside the unit and Is till can not get it out. The plastic lid attachment to the concentrate unit melted and is no longer attaching to the aluminum concentrate dish. Badly designed. I was extremely cautious not to over fill with concentrate and I kept it standing at all times. It leaked miserably. I contacted the company couple of days ago for a solution and I’m still waiting. I will keep you updated.

    • Buzz Danklin says: December 21, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      Yikes, let me know how it goes. APP goes live on the 28th of December 2016. I haven’t had any leakage problems with mine but maybe you had a dirty or bad seal. Are you using it mainly for concentrates or for dry herb? I use mine for dry herb 90% of them time so I’ll try it to use it more and see how it holds up.


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